URGENT SIBERIAN HUSKY 1YR OLD NOT AVAIL TILL 1/29/12 ADORABLE - Page 2

Welcome back tschraier!

As you can see the asshats keep popping up like mushrooms around here but the admin folks have real good hearts and so do a lot of other folks here.

I am a dog breeder with a real good heart, NONE of my dogs ever end up in shelters,
heck, I had one dog that I rehomed 5 times, the 5th time was a charm, he is still welcome to
come back but the man said "It's as if he has always lived here with us".

I am hoping to breed pups that have exceptional temperaments so when they go to their
new homes they are so loved that you couldn't pay the owner a million bucks to take back the dog.

I have no problem with how many times a rescue dog is posted, I sure hope that they
all find good homes.


Just that "Hate Dog Breeders"  sound like they could be PETA fans/people.

Get rid of all dog breeders and you will not run out of dogs, just quality dogs that have been carefully bred 
by some well intentioned breeders that have a real good heart and like the qualities that exist in certain breeds,
which makes owning a dog easier as you will have a better understanding of whats to come as you raise your canine.

Not to say a mixed breed is lacking certain traits and qualities that are found in a purebred dog, it's just that when breeding
purebred dogs you can usually know what to expect in the size, temperament, health and history of family tree.
That's usually what a breeder that loves a certain breed is all about.

I really must say though.....That link does look odd on a PEDIGREE DATA BASE for the PUREBRED DOG.......





 

joanro, truly, I don't understand why you find it so offensive that there is not universal love for breeders.  I certainly wouldn't say that I 'hate' breeders, but I have made it painfully clear that I believe far too many people are breeding dogs [I'll leave cat breeders out solely because this is a dog site] in the US, and have gone so far as to be supportive of suggestions that there should be minimum requirements and a significant annual licensing fee for ANYONE who breeds even a single litter...because I do feel that the casual breeders who just want Fluffy to have one litter before they spay her, or who figure they ought to recoup what they spent to buy or what it costs to keep their dog or couple of dogs, will be dissuaded if they have to pay a substantial fee and be licensed. 

Breeders who do the work responsibly, who put the time and effort into the nuances that are the hallmarks of an ethical, conscientious steward of their chosen breed, who always take back dogs they've bred if the owner can't or doesn't want to keep the animal [or who move heaven and earth to make arrangements for safe haven for such dogs in the event they can't bring the dog to their home], who support rescues via direct involvement [fostering, referring good adoptee candidates, transporting, etc.] or financially--those breeders are not the ones people who spit "I hate dog breeders" have in mind when their bile spills over.***

I'm pretty sure that you have no love for the same type of 'breeders' that cause the "I hate dog breeders" sentiment in some people [especially those who are deeply immersed in rescue work, with the daily heartbreak that brings]...so there's no reason you should be taking such a sentiment personally.  I don't take comments about 'government employees' personally, because I know the stereotype doesn't apply to me--I put far more than the 40 hours per week I'm paid for into my work because I believe in what I do--but I also understand WHY such sentiments exist, and I also know far too many government employees who DO fit the stereotype as if it were drawn around their form.



***Well, except for the really rabid, radical douchebags whose true agenda is for there to be NO animals of any species in captivity, and would see the elimination of the very concept of domesticated species--they do hate the ethical breeders, too.  And the general pet owner, and the farmer, and anyone else who breeds, keeps or aids any animal. In truth, I consider these dactyls to be haters of ANIMALS, not just of breeders. They do not have the best interest of any animal in their hearts.

I'll make the exception to posting, Hexe, as you addressed me. I do not "find it so offensive that there is not universal love for breeders". I'm not naive. I know and have seen many people who are "breeders" who don't give a rats arse about the dogs they breed or where their pups end up. However, 'hate breeders' puts all breeders in the same category of irresponsible and are blamed for shelters being over run. I don't believe that classification is accurate and the link for them (hate breeders) is out of place on a pedigree forum. Unless ofcorse the forum supports their views and philosophy, then they are at the right place. The dogs in shelters are there primarily because of irresponsible OWNERS who dump them and then they are cycled over and over again. The same people who dump them will get another dog from the shelter and the cycle continues. The mongrels that are at the pound were not bred by responsible, pure bred dog breeders, but more irresponsible owners. It is very depressing seeing dogs thrown away by people who think nothing of dumping their dog once the novelty has worn off. Perhaps there needs to be licensing before a person can own a dog.
According a study published in the Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science, "3.9% of surrendered dogs came from a pet shop, 10.6 % came from a breeder, 2.9% were received as a gift, 9.3% were found as a stray, 6% were offspring of another pet, 22.5% were originally acquired from another shelter, 33.8% were acquired from a friend."
Not exactly what Hate Breeders claim is.

"Unless ofcorse the forum supports their views and philosophy, then they are at the right place."

I guess I will answer for the forum that you are trashing.

There are a lot of views this forum does not support but we don't delete 99.9% of them. This is copied off of Facebook and the person who owns that page is not here. You are making another molehill into a mountain. But carry on and enjoy yourself.

I don't think this concerns us as this person is not here trashing us. Give it a rest and if you can't get over it then I really don't know what to tell you. Had you not brought this thread to the top it would well be on its way to being buried so it really is on you as you needed to stir it up.

"...then they are at the right place". That's "trashing" THIS forum. Why?
Ok, I get it.

You want the link deleted? Then do what 99% of the members would do and that is make an abuse report, instead you want to argue and belittle this forum by saying things that are not true. Mainly that this forum supports breeder haters. About 50% of the admins are breeders so I really don't think your premise holds much water and the other 50% do not hate breeders as I have never heard them say a bad thing about breeders.

I did NOT belittle the forum. The words you claim are not there. You seem to want to argue. I asked the op a question, you answered for them, this wasn't about you. You got in it. I don't care what their answer is now, you already answered for them. end of story.

your words - Unless ofcorse the forum supports their views and philosophy, then they are at the right place.

BTW, the OP is not here, they have been chased off. Probably to never return.

sheesh- its supposed to be about the DOGS here... Who cares who hates breeders and who doesnt! Anyone can hate anyone but what has that got to do with saving a life, people?  There are, sadly, many breeders that deserve  to be hated and sadly, many who do not deserve it. Whether or not anyone deserves it still has ZERO to do with saving a LIFE!!!! :(