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by Nans gsd on 04 August 2010 - 01:08

Definitely try the dog on a raw diet.  Once protein at a time,  if you notice him/her itching within a few hours then you know that it is that protein and move to another.  Your choices are vast so don't be alarmed if one does not work for him.  You have chicken, beef, lamb, pork, fish.  I bet you will find something for him that will work.  You can also go to  your game proteins, deer, antelope, elk, caribou and the list can go on and on.  There are lots of dogs that have allergies to chicken and people never find out that it is the chicken in the kibble or even just chicken fat or??  The list can be endless in the dry foods, especially Flax oil and flax seeds, very prevelent for allegries;    Good luck, my search for a kibble dog food has gone on for years and years;  I finally gave up and switches to raw and I am go glad I did.  You can even buy prepared RAW diets I did not like them as well as buying your own meats and yogurt, cottege cheese, eggs.  Really works for the skin.  I don't even add any extra oils;  I just make sure they get a variety in their diets unless for some reason someone cannot take a certain food, then they will get something else.  So far though except for Flax (of any type) I have not found anything these guys cannot eat.  Good  Luck  Nanci

by rottguy1980 on 04 August 2010 - 01:08

 I agree with Nans and Shelley 100 percent.  Don't count the dog out yet I think that you might be pleasantly surprised with the results and follow the 24 hour fast to start as Shelley suggested.  Also DO NOT JUST START FEEDING RAW FOOD!  Sorry some people miss that part.  You need to speak to someone who is knowledgeable about raw feeding before you just start throwing raw meat at him.  Good luck and cant wait to hear your results.  

malndobe

by malndobe on 04 August 2010 - 02:08

What does the contract say regarding genetic health issues?  Whatever the contract states, that is what you are entitled to.  This would definitely fall under a genetic condition that affected the dogs quality of life, which is what many (most?) contracts are geared towards.  Yours may have other clauses in it, regarding the dogs suitability as a stud, show dog, etc. 

But really, read your contract, it will tell you what you are intitled to.  Anything above and beyond that is up to the breeder.  We can all say what we think you should get, but we didn't write or sign the contract.

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 04 August 2010 - 04:08

You mentioned "sores" what kind of sores are they? Hot spots or something more like pyoderma? If the spots start out small and get bigger and bigger with licking, oozing, and hair loss then the dog has pyoderma and have nothing to do with allergies even though some vets feel they are. In that case you could go out of your mind trying to stop the itch but never getting to the root of the problem.Quecetin works very well for allergies. For such a young dog, using death meds (pred) may seem like a good thing now but wont be when it stops working.  You might also consider a gluten free diet which worked very well for a dog that I had for which nothing else worked. He almost completely stopped itching. Ive seen dogs grow out of it just like kids.

Let us know how it turns out.

Uber Land

by Uber Land on 04 August 2010 - 04:08

I would say yes to a refund.  you bought a show/stud prospect and a reputabe breeder would not consider a dog with extreme allergies a show/stud prospect. 

you are looking at a very expensive life with this dog, and I mean expensive in regards to trying to keep him comfortable.   the itching from the allergies can cause all kinds of infections which could be passed to you and your family (staph?) if he goes unchecked. 

if it was one of my pups, I would refund at least 1/2 if not all of the money you paid for him.  I would not refund shipping or be able to refund vet costs (not a wealthy person), but with all you've been thru I think it is the right thing to do on refunding the purchase price.
(of course like others, I would ask for proof of whats been done, and a vet report)

Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 19 January 2011 - 21:01

Coconut oil....inside & outside!  (One of many natural products for allergies)

Medicine like steroids and such, weaken the dogs immune system and debilitates the poor dog.

Medicine has all sorts of side affects, start with a clean slate and detox your dogs body with a raw healthy diet, then you won't have expensive vet bills, and no, there is really no quality kibble, unless you enjoy eating cereal for breakfast lunch & dinner.

Natural products work the best!

Kimmelot

by Kimmelot on 19 January 2011 - 21:01

I have had people call me and tell me there last dog was allergic to Chicken. And then twice I have produced puppies allergic to chicken and it makes me wonder if there is traces of medication left over in teh meats before they are processed that the dog is actualy allergic to and not the meat its self. Chickens are pretty much keep on Antibiotics there whole lives before they are killed.

Whisper

by brynjulf on 19 January 2011 - 21:01

Talk to your breeder again.  Most breeders with do the right thing.  Probably no refund but often will replace the pup with a vet certificate.    I agree with many of the other posters put the pup on a raw diet and see if there are changes.  I have seen miracles happen in some dogs!  Did you say what brand of dog food you had your youngster on?  Sorry if I missed that.  What area of the body are you seeing the allergy symptoms?  Ears? Around eyes? Feet?  Where specifically? 

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 19 January 2011 - 23:01

 I know you don't want advice, but we have a hard time hearing about a miserable dog and not trying to help. Please, just try this. Most dogs are not truly allergic- especially at such a young age, as allergies typically worsen over time- but have imbalances caused by other things like vaccines, etc. Allergy symptoms are just that- a sign of a problem, not THE problem themselves. This is an auto-immune problem that may be partially hereditary, or it may not be. It could be as simple as leaky gut syndrome. If you don't know what that is, then I strongly urge you to do some homework, for your dog's sake. Not only that, but it is CHEAP to fix. 

www.nzymes.com/pc/articles.asp

www.nzymes.com/Articles/dog_or_cat_allergies_assessment.htm

As a breeder, I would have to know exactly what you did from day one before telling you I would refund you. I would probably insist on taking the dog back if you were not willing to do that, before I'd offer a refund. Basically, I'm saying it depends. If I believed you had truly done everything in your power to determine a reason and tried my suggestions, I would probably help any way I could. But if you were writing him off (as you sound like you are) I would probably refund and/or replace, but only if you turned the allergic dog over to me. I couldn't sleep at night knowing one of mine was that sick and miserable w/out doing EVERYTHING in my power to find out why and fix it. 

Good luck!

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 19 January 2011 - 23:01

Guys, this is an old thread, put up as a link in her new thread, " How long after giving birth before she can do x-rays." .

Someone suspects her using this dog with the allergy problems for breeding.





 


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