Reply to Shtal (Interesting facts, for believers) - Page 31

Oh hell no,
did you ever figure out what it was you really wanted to ask me?



I hate it when this thing jumps to a new page...lol

* "If there was initial creation moment that made everything, then it cries out for a beginner - right? Or cause outside the universe to bring into existence." *

If I'm understanding your question of "initial moment" right .. no. In science, the Big Bang is an effect not a cause. The effect is the beginning of something, the cause is the ending of something. Something caused the Big Bang. The Big Bang was NOT a starting point, it was an ending point according to the Laws of Cause and Effect.

edit: and when I say ending point, IMO the ending point of "nothing" NOT "absolute nothing". Understand shtal ?

I didn't want to ask you anything. Your assuming. lol

I wanted you to watch the video. Nothing more.

Whatever,
you have a poor memory.


The video is not worth the effort, I have seen it before.
Why is it so important to you?

You are delusional Moon. Go reread your posts. You said you never watched the video only took a look. Pull yourself together.

Unbelievable some of you people.

BabyEagle,
You have a problem do you, with answering simple questions, only to make another lame remark.

I've waisted my time thinking you wanted a conversation once again.

Try another.....lol


Moons.

" Christians who believe the Bible IS God's Word.....can at least agree on how it all came to be.  Hmm..."

I wish that were true.  Those who believe in the Bible's version of creation still disagree over the literal versus symbolic interpretation of recorded events.  For example, was the world created in 7 literal days or 7000 years, if 1 day is as 1000 years to God?  Was Adam the first man or was mankind created on the sixth day and Adamic man, Christ's lineage, created on the eighth day? 

GSDguy08, I understand your statement that it is a bigger stretch of the imagination (or so-called "leap of faith") to believe everything came from nothing than to presume a Creator.  GSDtravels, I don't see how your analogies compare.

My own personal opinion is that, however it began, we are here now, and I am more interested in how it is going to end.  Especially with all the conflict in the Middle East.  But that's just me.

Whateva you say Moons. 

It is going to end by an act of nature and not by a Gods hand. Take it to the bank.

Micaho, at least all of the Christians I know can agree on it.....      Whether you believe Adam was the first man, or Eve the first woman (though her name means "Mother of all the living) we should note something even about the lineage mentioned.  In those days typically it was the men's names mentioned in a lineage.  Which is why we don't see many women mentioned going throughout it all.   Whether or not Adam was the first man is not important, of course, these two were mentioned for a reason however.   What do you mean in your last statement though, about the middle east?  Are you referring to what people say about Israel being "God's nation"? Or what? Or just speaking of the middle east in general? The scriptures are clear on how everything will end (when God does end....everything...)