Biblical numbers game :)

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by ggturner on 20 December 2011 - 17:12

Numbers are symbolic notations.

Language--Latin? Many other languages developed from it.

Verifiable constant in the Bible: truth (that the Bible is God's inspired, infalliable word)

by Ninja181 on 20 December 2011 - 18:12

The first Bible was written in Hebrew.

That's because it contained the secret receipe for Hebrew Franks.

Sorry, couldn't resist having a little fun!

by GSDtravels on 20 December 2011 - 19:12

LMAO, ninja. Humor is always a good thing.

by GSDtravels on 20 December 2011 - 19:12

"Numbers are symbolic notations.

Language--Latin? Many other languages developed from it.

Verifiable constant in the Bible: truth (that the Bible is God's inspired, infalliable word)"

Okay, so numbers are symbolic, in your opinion. What do they symbolize?

Many languages developed it. So which parts of the Bible were more likely to translate literally?

Verifiable How? What verifies it for you?

by GSDtravels on 20 December 2011 - 19:12

If there were any parts of the Bible that would likely be translated through a number of languages, wouldn't that be known to the writers, if they were truly inspired? Wouldn't that be a forethough, as opposed to an afterthought? So, what is the best way to translate literally, through a series of translations, even if a few words got lost or misinterpreted in the processes of translation? Wouldn't they want a place in there that would give clear definition? Just so you know that what you're reading is right?

by GSDtravels on 20 December 2011 - 20:12

The only verifiable constants are numbers. They translate through all languages, without misinterpretation. Did you ever wonder why the Bible is numbered? Did you think it was for reference sake? Think again! Did you ever ponder the numbers, or have you dismissed them as symbolism that nobody really understands? Did you ever delve into what each and every one symbolize? Or are there too many to be able to get through? That would even be worse! Wouldn't it?

But if there was a code as to which numbers hold the most significance and which ones are just flashing signs, how would you go about cracking the code? Which numbers matter most, and WHY?

by GSDtravels on 20 December 2011 - 20:12

Is there any one number in the Bible that's obvious, to any reader, and clearly symbolic? Are there more than one that seems to be of equal importance? If so, what are they and what makes you come to that conclusion?

by GSDtravels on 20 December 2011 - 20:12

What do they symbolize? Let's look at 3.

What is unique about the number itself, without any Biblical thought?

Where does it appear in the Bible and what, specifically, does it symbolize?
Is that the only place it appears?
Does it have more than one symbolic meaning, or is it there to drive home a particular point?
Is it repeated in a different way many times, but really has the same symbolic meaning?
What are the similarities?
If it means something different, symbolically, in different places, what are the major differences?

by GSDtravels on 20 December 2011 - 21:12

Wow, this is shocking to me. All of a sudden, the Bible scholars disappeared! C'mon Gouda, Shtal, I thought you knew it cover to cover. Isn't that what you've said? All you ever needed to know was in the Bible? And yet there are parts of it that you haven't even explored? All I can say is WOW, your thought processes must have stopped after the first page!

by Ninja181 on 20 December 2011 - 21:12

The #3could mean any of the following:

God's attributes are three: omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence.

There are three great divisions completing time: past, present, and future.

Three persons, in grammar, express and include all the relationships of mankind.

Thought, word, and deed, complete the sum of human capability.

Three degrees of comparison complete our knowledge of qualities.

The simplest proposition requires three things to complete it; viz., the subject, the predicate, and the copula.

Three propositions are necessary to complete the simplest form of argument: the major premiss, the minor, and the conclusion.

Three kingdoms embrace our ideas of matter; mineral, vegetable, and animal

The #7:

In the Hebrew, seven is (ba#$e (shevah). It is from the root (ba#$&af (savah), to be full or satisfied, have enough of. Hence the meaning of the word "seven" is dominated by this root, for on the seventh day God rested from the work of Creation. It was full and complete, and good and perfect. Nothing could be added to it or taken from it without marring it. Hence the word tba#$af (Shavath), to cease, desist, rest, and tb@af#$a Shabbath, Sabbath, or day of rest. This root runs through various languages; e.g., Sanscrit, saptan; Zend., hapta; Greek, epta (hepta); Latin, septem. All these preserve the "t," which in the Semitic and Teutonic languages is dropped out; e.g. Gothic, sibun; German, sieben; English, seven.

It is seven, therefore, that stamps with perfection and completeness that in connection with which it is used. Of time, it tells of the Sabbath, and marks off the week of seven days, which, artificial as it may seem to be, is universal and immemorial in its observance amongst all nations and in all times. It tells of that eternal Sabbath-keeping which remains for the people of God in all its everlasting perfection.

In the creative works of God, seven completes the colors of the spectrum and rainbow, and satisfies in music the notes of the scale. In each of these the eighth is only a repetition of the first.

The #666:

The number six hundred sixty six is "the number of a name" (Revelation 13:17-18). When the name of Antichrist is known its Gematria (substituting numbers for letters) will doubtless be found to be the number 666. But this number has, we believe, a far deeper reference to and connection with the secret mysteries of the ancient religions, which will be again manifested in connection with the last great apostasy.

Many names may be found, the numerical value of whose letters amounts to 666. We have a list of about forty such gematria. Most of them are ridiculous, inasmuch as instead of the gematria being confined to Hebrew and Greek (which have no Arabic or other special signs for figures), the principle is extended to names in English, French, and other modern languages, on the assumption that they would have been spelt in exactly the same way; whereas we know that names both of persons and places are not simply transliterated in various languages. It is abusrd therefore to attempt to take words from the modern European languages which use Arabic figures.

Gematria is not a means by which the name is to be discovered; but it will be a test and a proof by which the name may be identified after the person is revealed.

If six is the number of secular or human perfection, then 66 is a more emphatic expression of the same fact, and 666 is the concentrated expression of it; 666 is therefore the trinity of human perfection; the perfection of imperfection; the culmination of human pride in independence of God and opposition to His Christ.

The number, however, has to be computed (yhfizw (pseephizo), to reckon, to calculate, not merely to count or enumerate). See Revelation 13:18. Therefore it is not to be known by gematria merely, though, as we have said, that will be one of the factors in the calculation, just as the letters in the word Jesus amount to 888.

But 666 was the secret symbol of the ancient pagan mysteries connected with the worship of the Devil. It is to day the secret connecting link between those ancient mysteries and their modern revival in Spiritualism, Theosophy, etc. The efforts of the great enemy are now directed towards uniting all into one great whole. The newspapers, worldly and religious, are full of schemes as to such a union. "Reunion" is in the air. The societies for the re-union of Christendom, and the Conferences for the re-union of the Churches, are alike parts of the same great movement, and are all making for and are signs of the coming Apostasy. During this age, "Separation" is God's word for His people, and is the mark of Christ; while "union" and "re-union" is the mark of Antichrist.

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