HELP PLEASE!! - Page 2

Jenni, that sucks to no end!

RJH, application for the PEN number can be found here: http://www.ckc.ca/en/Events/Event-Forms

Scroll down until you see the heading "Exhibitor"

If the dog was born in the U.S., I wouldn't bother to mention that as it will just muddy the waters, but since the site you bought him from has a .ca address instead of .com, I am guessing it must be a Canadian site!

Good luck!

http://www.ambafrance-de.org/IMG/pdf/HUNDEKATEGORIEN-D-E-F_2013.pdf?18718/5df23fd0a63a0b57b923660df25f3acff48c9f06

Doesn´t sound like fun - sorry

Translation of article Susie linked to:

DOGS OF THE FIRST CATEGORY IN ANY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION OF DOGS (WWW.FCI.BE) APPROVED PARENT GUIDE REGISTERED (without pedigree) IMPORTS IN / TRANSIT THROUGH FRANCE IS PROHIBITED

If you are not sure whether the dog might be associated with one of these categories of dangerous dogs (Category 1 or Category 2 above on next page), the dog owner must have a certificate (detailed and understandable for the French authorities) may submit a veterinarian, confirming that the animal does not belong to one of these categories. The granting of this certificate may be applied criteria verified by a French veterinarian.  Without this certificate or in the case of a non-truthful certificate, the holder must, in the case a control in France, to face penal sanctions - this may possibly lead to the confiscation of the dog. Therefore, for dogs similar to these categories being imported into France, caution should be exercised.

attached. DOGS THE SECOND CATEGORY STRICT IMPORT CONDITIONS ATTITUDE AND CONDITIONS IN FRANCE Breeds import conditions (apply equally by the transit France) Pitt Bull Type American Staffordshire Terrier Rottweiler or type of Rottweiler Type Tosa The dog must: 1 - in the International Kennel Club (www.fci.be) be registered approved studbook (As in a by the French Ministry of Agriculture recognized studbook). Information at: www.scc.asso.fr or http://www.fci.be/members.asp?lang=fr&sel=1 and the documents confirming the registration, carry with you. (Except for the dogs of the type of Rottweiler, from the 2nd category) Be identified - 2 - Have an EU passport - May have a valid rabies vaccination Housing conditions in France The owner shall: 3 - are responsible for all the following conditions: • be at least 18 years old • are not under guardianship (except when the Guardianship judge has been approved) • be no criminal (imprisonment with or without parole, in the registered a criminal record) Be in possession of FITNESS PROOF - 4 (Only an authorized French instructor may this Certificate for a minimum of 7-hour course exhibit) 5 - to prove that the dog is a BEHAVIOR ASSESSMENT underwent (Only an authorized French veterinarian in a Prefect directory is registered, may conduct assessments perform and deliver a certificate) 6 - be in possession of a SPECIFIC LIABILITY INSURANCE, for any damage that could cause the dog in France 7 - lead his dog on a leash and in public institutions provided and transport with a muzzle 8 - a POSSESSION APPROVAL (Act of 20 June 2008) Municipality may submit his Erstwohnsitzes: In it his dog in the community with the following documents declared: ∙ identification card ∙ EU passport with a valid rabies vaccination ∙ proof of liability insurance (see Insurance) ∙ the behavioral assessment of his dog ∙ certificate of suitability; if it is not the owner of the dog is: the Certificate of Proficiency ∙ statement of the owner 9 - All dogs that stay longer than 3 months in France, must be identified and registered in a national register (Fichier National Canin)

Thank you, Susie. Indeed this does not sound good....

Found the information on an English website, and it makes it quite clear. Your dog is considered a dangerous dog, and MUST have a pedigree. Other restrictions apply as well:

Dangerous Dogs

There are particular restrictions on the importation of classified dangerous dogs in France.

You cannot bring into the country any dog known as a Staffordshire terrier without pedigree, American Staffordshire terrier (pitbull) without pedigree, Mastiff or Tosa without a pedigree.

The American Staffordshire terrier, Rottweiler and Tosa can be brought into the country, provided you have a pedigree certificate. If you bring one of these dogs into the country, you are obliged to register it with the local council, and other regulations apply.

• Dangerous Dogs Licence Becomes Mandatory
• DEFRA

Yes so the dangerous dogs are split into 2 categories: Categorie 1 (Without Pegidree) and Categorie 2 (with Pedigree). 

Categorie 1 dogs are not allowed to be imported to France (Categorie 1 dog owners already in France were allowed to keep their dogs on certain conditions) , Categorie 2 are allowed to be imported to France (provided you meet all the conditions)

Right now my dog falls in the Categorie 1 since I do not have a pedigree. I do meet the rest of the conditions for Categorie 2 (Neutered, micro-chipped, vaccinated...) and to obtain a licencse except for the proof that he is purebred.

They do mention somwhere that they need a Pedigree or Certificate of birth... I am hoping that I can obtain any official document that equivalent to the certificat of birth and that is accepted by the authorities in France.

I emailed CKC this morning. They answered that they are reviewing my request and will get back to me. Hopefully they will get back to me with a solution.

I am also hoping that since my relocation to France is only temporary (the company is sending me as an expat for 2 years) and since the company is taking care of obtaining the required documents for my move (work visa..)  maybe the French authorities will be a bit leniant and accept an equivalent to these documents to issue a license.

thank you all! will let you know what happens.

Wishing you the very best of luck, hope it turns out okay and you can take him with you.

Why not try the Continental Kennel Club...only seen one dog registered through them, but I think they register just aboyt anything.

    What a shame that even a good dog has to pay the penalty for those before it.

From the appearance of the dog it may pass as an Am Staff under AKC's ILP program.

yes the equivalent of AKC's ILP Program at the Canadian Kennel Club is the PEN which allows dogs unregistered dogs from recognized breeds to compete in events.

I am applying for the PEN at CKC and hoping the document will be accepted in France. I am also getting a behavior evaluation as a proof that he is very well behaved and not a danger.