Where is Troas Von Haus Cimmerian? - Page 5

I have to agree with the point Haz Why does anyone have to prove to you and no less to your level of satisfaction what any dog can do and then have you belittle the dog and/or the handler.  Needs to stop.

It would still be bad but maybe not so  much if you showed your videos first before asking others to do the same.

I have not searched the board but offhand cannot remember any videos from you about your dogs be that as it may who/what gives you the right to judge every dog here.

I am so tired of the so called working line group who yell from the highest peaks that all dogs must follow Max's way or at least the SV way and yet I see so few working line owners who do

If I remember what I have read Max said work and show   Using the word WORK in the context of the SV rules.

It does take work to sit on a couch all day believe me try it for a month or more.

Sorry no videos of me working

 

I wonder if this dog needs a video posted? 

http://www.akc.org/news/victims-service-dog-stayed-until-very-end

Lol I have posted many vids on here.

Never once has anyone posted a video of their training and I have said something negative.

I only ask for video when people make assertions about dogs they are breeding or think should be bred.
Or make obviously stupid comments about how dogs train and work.

You want to make stupid assertions about SLs being strong in the work?
I know this is BS. I know it because I have observed, worked, trained and owned dogs with this blood. If you want to say this and argue with guys like me who actually get out there buy and train dogs SHOW THE VIDEO of all the good SLs working.

You want to talk about some random male WL dog that's only accomplishment seems to be a Ukc title that you want to breed to your untitled bitch that hasn't proven jack other then having nice colors on a public forum?
Ya I might remark on your main concern seeming to be appearance in a supposed working breeding. You want to have a discussion about it? Then show proof.

It's real simple you want to post video of your dog training that you are doing for fun or as a hobby. Great I will never and have never run such an individual down.

You want to make stupid assertions about dogs and training like many on here do every day? (You know who you are folks ;)

Then be prepared to prove it. If I say something about training or a dog you can feel free to ask me for proof any time ;).

If I come on here talking about breeding a dog or making him out to be stud material you better believe there will be video and trial results.

In the end your all free to do what you want but this is a public forum and when I see people say things that are incorrect or detrimental to what makes a working dog yes I'll challenge that and ask for proof.

 

I think your case would be stronger if you could tell the difference between Troas and Truce.

Bulletin, Haz.....no one cares about your opinions of GSD's. Try the malinois forum.

Haz - you quoted, "You want to talk about some random male WL dog that's only accomplishment seems to be a Ukc title that you want to breed to your untitled bitch that hasn't proven jack other then having nice colors on a public forum?"

1. If you are referring to my OP entitled, "Where is Troas Von Haus Cimmerian?" you are most certainly off-topic, and it is not your decision as to whether or not I can talk about where he is currently at on this forum. That is the decision of the administrators on this database.
2. Troas is a National and UKC Champion, not just UKC. He is also the grandson of the great and very prolific Don vom Haus Iris SchH3/IP3, Kkl 1.
3. It is really none of your concern what my untitled female has proven as she doesn't have to please anyone but my husband and me. For the record, she is obedience trained, retrieves, herds horses, and is a natural protector (barks as if she will kill you and stands down when told to with a great on and off switch). She will do anything I ask of her.
4. It doesn't make her less than anyone else's dog just because I haven't entered her in competitions, or she isn't "titled." It doesn't mean she can't be titled in the future. She is a young dog and who knows what may come next for her.
5. It is not my untitled females fault I haven't entered her in any trials, at this point in time, nor is it my fault. Not everyone can campaign his/her dogs due to various reasons such as health issues, etc. It doesn't mean she isn't a great German Shepherd.

I don't understand why you keep hurling insults at people on this particular thread, including me.

All I really wanted to know was where is Troas Von Haus Cimmerian? That is it!

I agree with Haz about Troas. Absolutely no working titles (that I can find anywhere), Judy's standard, meaningless UKC CH labels, and the typical drama that involves any dog unlucky enough to fall into those hands. What a line-up, if you follow where the poor dog has been. I really hope he is ok. :(

However, Haz, you don't do anything for your case when you don't read what others write, and just keep repeating the same "show me the video" rhetoric. I posted 2 photos Kurt asked me to post and you again responded with some video comment. Uh, I didn't show them to show him working so much as to show you he's a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DOG than Troas. Sable dog vs. black dog, same last name, very different dogs otherwise.

I presented a superior (in my mind) alternative to the classic untitled, pretty stud in the form of a similar top half of the ped., but appropriately titled, known to be in excellent health in old age, and who has produced strong dogs.

Yet you rant on, rather than admit my entire point sailed right over your head. That makes people resist even harder against what you're saying.

@Haz: when challenged, you say (& have said before) that you have put up 'lots' of vids;
but they don't seem easy to find. Suggest you provide links, then we can check them out.


@ OP - good post !

What does a youtube video proof anyway. How do we know if we are watching take 1 or take 10. 

The best out of 10 is not good enough for me anyway, so i rather reed about some ones passion for his/her dog.

 

The reason certain posters  insist on seeing videos/photos is to give them ammunition to belittle the dog and/or the trainer or owner.  I fell for it one time, posted a still photo of one of my GSL's clearing the meter jump with her dumbell - she earned her Sch 3 that day.  The response was - she looks like a dropped ass black and red rabbit, etc.

Having WL's won't save you either. They will always find some meanspirited thing to say about any GSD unless they know and like/fear the owner or trainer.