Why Do They Do It ? - Page 3

sue b. tell me why is it that every time you lose the argument and plot( which is often)you try to turn on me with words that have nothing to do with what has been written? far from sucking up to mrs farley as you say, i have pointed out to her that she has her facts wrong, i have never denergrated her dogs or training methods, how could i, i haven't a clue who her dogs are or what her training entails.no i am afraid she owe me an apology, but if she's like you i am not really expecting one. i really am getting bored with you now, and the fact that you won't answer any questions about what is wrong in the breed speaks volumes, instead all you do is keep coming back on here to have the last word. you see you say you have been in the show game many many years, BUT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ERADICATE THE WRONG DOINGS.You are so far in denial its pathetic. sadly yours and videx tiresome excuse that you don't know who i am( despite me telling you)is codswallop. if i had signed my name as from a top kennel you still would not know who i was thats why i use my own name. i have no way of knowing if i am writing to the real sue b. do i!!!!!

sue b. oh dear further into that hole you dig. its all right for deb29 to remain anon to the most of us, because she paid you a few misguide compliments. now if you will excuse me i have to get back to some serious work, my company needs me.

Dear Tara82, You must lead a very lonely life, so glad someone needs you, even if it's only your employers. The lack of entities, annonymous or otherwise, running to your defense on here tells everyone in the GSD World all they would ever want to know about you. Will see you and co-conspiracer SimonB on Saturday if you are still not too embarrassed to reveal yourself. Regards Sue B

sue b. EMPLOYERS!! your gonna be ever so disappointed sue it's my own company (very successful too). keep dodging those questions and any form of proper debate.

Dear Tara82, Not in the least disappointed Tara, guess the unemployable have little choice than to form their own company. With any luck this company will become so much more successful and dependant on you that it will keep you away from our GSD World permanently! Fingers Crossed. :-)) Most Sincerley Sue B

sue b. tut! tut! tut! now you really have shown yourself up-thanks. I could say the only think you would have run is a bath-but that would be as petty as you lol !!!!!!!!!

Tara you really are an abusive person. I will not apologise as I did not accuse you of anything other than using my dogs name in vain when you obviously know nothing about him. Ok you want a debate about the perceived wrongs you see in the breed and show ring today. Withholding water - now that is going to be very difficult to prove. We all run around carrying either buckets of water or bottles or in my case a water spray as it is easier to carry and doesn't overload the dogs stomach with water when it still has to run round (very dangerous and even deadly in the case of torsion) so again only small amounts of water allowed before going in the ring but always water allowed. How are you going to prove that water has been withheld? Have you been in the house with the people you are accusing and seen this happening? I think not. If you can prove all your allegations then I will be the first to stand beside you and point the finger but then you don't like the limelight do you? As to people congratulating my dog for his achievements because I am a Championship Show judge - you really don't know me or even some of the people who actually sign their names to their posts as I think only Sue is also a Ch. Show judge and if I remember rightly has not shown an animal under me at any time. So why all the abusive comments? I am asking a question now and would like a reply - I have had the courtesy to reply to your questions please do likewise. Nikki

NIKKI F. " but please don't belittle their training qualifications ". the above is a direct quote from your post to me.so be kind and show me where i mentioned anything belittling about your dogs at all.so you see you accused me of something i never said, which really deserves an apology ( but as i said before and how accurate i was, that i don't expect one from you) and as for the water chasing, you must know more than me, because i never mentioned anywhere about owners withholding water in their house or car or wherever-mine and others on here points were that certain people run round the ring with containers of water to specifically attract the dogs to make them pull out( if thats not cruel what is) as you are a show secretary perhaps you can explain to us all-how a dog gets entered in open class( its actually printed in catalogue) but at the show the dog gets put into limit instead( no explanation for the spectators)and wins limit class.and at the same show in the open dog class the steward and judge are seen talking in the ring with an owner, and that dog subsquently wins the class.???

Tara82 What company do you lead the BITCH company, your very good at it no wonder your successful. You are abusing people that have been in the breed along time and knowledgeable and by the sounds of it you haven't so BOG OFF. LC

lara croft so what you saying then, that i should let people accuse me of something i never said or did, just because they have been in the breed a long time? not only do i think that they are not big enough to apologise, but i bet you the last question i posed mrs farley won't be answered either. all these wrong doings and cheating and whatever and these so called stalwards of the breed won't answer the questions, how will we ever move forward.let me tell you they are not concerned because they all have their own little clicks, you put me up i'll put you up, and yes of course it cannot be proved thats why its been going on for years, thats why show entries are so poor nowadays.and all you do is close ranks.