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by Bob McKown on 27 November 2010 - 22:11

Talk to Jessy Gabriel or Rob Dunn at Van Meerhout or talk to Nate Harves at Sportwaffen if your in the States.

sueincc

by sueincc on 27 November 2010 - 23:11

What is your experience level with GSDs, schutzhund and PSA? 

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 28 November 2010 - 00:11

 Thank you, Sue! Good point!

Make sure you're prepared for it if you get what you want. So many people THINK that's what they want, then they get what they asked for, and it's a bit much, they decide.

Dogs like you're describing (OP, not  Sue, lol) do exist, and people do breed them, but you better believe we're SUPER picky and careful about where they go. I just bought one back from my first litter because I didn't want to lose her if she were sold, as her type is so rare nowadays, and besides that.......I worried where she would end up and what could happen to her if she was too much for them. 

What the OP wants is, IMHO, more what we should be breeding for-versatility and a dog w/real aggression there......not just a dog for sport. The problem is when I breed those, I have to make sure there are enough qualified homes to put them in. 



Red Sable

by Red Sable on 28 November 2010 - 01:11

I agree with Bob.  I have a dog exactly as you describe and I got it from Nate Harves. 

by Shepherd Lover on 28 November 2010 - 02:11

I am in the process of getting my male his BH in Sch and Sch1.  He's still young, just at a year and a half, and I have a set of proffesional trainers that I work with that came highly recommended to me by several people.  We go twice a week (sometimes 3 to train).  My male is a slow developer and I'm taking it easy on him not to put too much pressure before he's ready for it.  I know what is expected and how to get it done.  Before I purchased him, I did my due diligence in researching and reading along with going to clubs and trials for almost a year before I purchased him.  So I know what I'm getting into, since I'm into it now for almost 3 years.  I'm not saying that I'm an expert on the subject (I believe everyone is still learning in one way or another), but I'm not one of those people that see a video on the internet and say that's what I want.  I'm not a compulsive person, I research and do my share of investigating.  Everyone has to start somewhere, and I want to start off on the right foot and not be a back yard breeder that does nothing with their dogs but live off their backs.  I want to start off small and build up my kennel slowly so I have the time to properly evaluate each dog and pup that I have to make sure that I'm not producing unstable and unpredictable dogs.  I've always had a love for the breed, and now that I have the time, I am able to seriously get into it, and I feel I have the proper knowledge to do so, I want to make sure I get the right dog for the job.

For all of you that have recommended kennels, thank you very much.  I will check each one out and see which one is the best fit for me.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 28 November 2010 - 02:11

 Shepherd Lover, I wasn't implying you were ignorant of what you were getting into; I just was piggybacking on Sue's very good point; make sure the person really wants what they're asking for. For every person that is up for what they are looking for, there are probably at least 100 who really aren't, or haven't researched enough. I was just elaborating on her point. 

sueincc

by sueincc on 28 November 2010 - 03:11

You're right, everyone has to start somewhere,  just keep in mind we are in a global recession, your direct competition, the people who have  earned their good reputations as breeders  from multiple  generations of hard work and experience are struggling to sell their very good puppies right now, many have cut back on breeding for this very reason - and everyone already knows they breed good dogs!   I really have to wonder if a newbie would stand the proverbial snowballs chance in hell in this current economy when it comes to breeding and selling puppies.  

Anyway, I wish you much luck, you are a brave person to start making a breeding kennel in such difficult times.

by sable59 on 28 November 2010 - 04:11

www.mountainlakekennels.com  has great ppd and police dogs.very civil but not crazy.yhey will make you feel secure when you go to bed at night or at ease during the day.yhey  will PROTECT YOU AND FAMILY!!!

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 28 November 2010 - 04:11

 I got the idea she was looking for more of a "total package" in terms of structure and temperament both. I thought s/he was looking for something out of titled, breed surveyed, koerklassed parents, maybe V rated or at least SG. I might have read more into it than was there, but that was what I thought reading between the lines of her post. 

Or that may be me just assuming because she mentioned breeding, and I'm imposing on others what I personally think should be bred, LOL.



by Shepherd Lover on 28 November 2010 - 05:11

You are absolutely correct in your last post Jenni78.  That's exactly what I'm looking for plus everything that I've included in my original post.

As far as starting a kennel in a recession, I'm not looking to breed for at least a couple of years.  Not until I have a completed at the very least a Sch1 on the female and of course all the health tests, etc.  Like I said, I'm looking to start small and build up from there, but then again, I'm not looking to make any money out of this, as this is a passion for me and I am looking to produce to what the German Shepherd should be and not week nerve and poor temperments which I have come across way to many times.  The state I live in doesn't have any decent dogs that I have found and believe me, I've looked and researched and looked and researched some more,  I'm not trying to put down any kennels by any means, but it's very hard to find what I'm looking for, like Jenni said "the total package".  I have found that many (not all) breeders breed for one or two specific things and that's it.  Well, what about the rest of it?  If you breed for only one or two things and wash the breed of everyhing else, then (to me) the person shouldn't be breeding.  Again, way to many breeders out there that do that and then have issues because either they didn't evaluate the homes that they are going to in example if they are breeding extreme drive and have live wire puppies, then place them in family homes that don't have a clue or they have dogs with health issues because they were bred for one thing and that's to look pretty.  I've been looking now for a while for what I believe is the right dog and just didn't want to end up with someones leftovers or ruined dogs.  I'm extremely picky and have that right to be.  I feel strongly about what a German Shepherd should be and want to continue the legacy that they have, not ruin it.





 


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