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I'll always start with obidence at young age while ragging throwing ball but every game is a lesson. High quality obidence in first year make sure the dog understand comands when bite work starts ill let him bite all the time as time goes on aggression becoming stronger will bite anything on front of him because that's what I wanted. He is confident. Now he knows he is alowed to bite now I teech when to bite that's when I teech control. The base is there with obidence .put him in sit decoy walking around keep dog in sit or down when he is relaxed camand to bite. Not as easy as that but to totally experience you need to see. Blizen might not do any harm to go to clubs and just watch a good experience hope this helps. Not easy to put in writing.

I do belong to a club and that's pretty much the way we do it there too when we start out our pups. Yogi. Normally the dogs are fairly well  under control of their handlers by the time they start working with the helpers/decoys. The goal at our club is IPO titling.

I don't now of any respected PP et  al trainers in the Tampa area. There is one out the road who makes a big display of setting up the training field with equipment, but no one has ever heard of him or his dogs and he allows no spectators at his training session unless you buy one of his dogs or use one for breeding .

Blitz aggression will be way different outs won't be as quick. A good dog can read the differen situation. That's where clear head comes in. But I'm a firm believer in control. A ppd does not have to a lunatic (I'm not implying vk dog is feel I need to get that in )he needs to be smart confident and alert and so on

 

Most sport dogs come for the sleeve , I like to see a dog is coming for the man not the equipment
with AGRESSION most helpers don,t like this kind of dogs today. A good helper can work with both
type of dogs .. will not say a real agressive dog is not clear headed but this type of dogs are more serious
in their work.

 

Blitzen, the clip was a short snippet of his dog biting a new target area. Not a clip indicative on whether or not OP's dog has any ob done.
You live in the Tampa area and don't know of a good PP trainer? Geez have you not heard of Ivan? I don't believe his main focus is PP work, but the man is certainly capable of training such dog. He is an excellent trainer.

Would agree black mal .when dog is super aggressive towards the man with nothing but the man then reward with bite at that stage I like to use hidden sleve I know it still equipment but it's the best way I find

 

Can be very usefull tool for most sportdogs today Yogi agree a hidden sleeve but a dog is very smart because they can smell the hidden sleeve after 1 or 2 session same as they can smell a suit or ipo sleeve.

 

Yes I know who Ivan is, hn, he's was at one of our trials a few years ago. I didn't realize he had training sessions at his field where he allowed the general public to watch. I was to a seminar there a few years ago just after I moved to FL.

I also understood that vk's clip wasn't meant to show OB, My question was - how do handlers control dogs when they get into the zone or can't they? At what point does the dog take over and do it his or her way?

Thanks for all the good responses. I think I get it now.

There is nothing else black malin I dont any one that will donate there arm or leg trust me iv asked around