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From what I've read, the problem isn't so much what he says, it's the way he says it. It seems his own temperament is his biggest problem. He was given an important position to influence the breed, and from most accounts he spent his time running around looking for publicity so he could spout off about how terrible things had become. He could have worked within the system to effect change in a calm, methodical way over a period of time, but it seems he chose not to. His comment that the 57 members who voted him out of the breed warden position asked themselves, "What is best for me?" is just more of the same inflammatory rhetoric. Has it occurred to him that some of those 57 might have actually agreed with his concerns, but didn't like his approach?

"Dr. Raiser focuses on a healthy dog with working capabilities who is sound in the head. Don't know what is wrong with that?" There's nothing wrong with breeding a healthy dog with working capabilities who is sound in the head. There is a lot wrong with the way Raiser want's to achieve that and also with his interpretation of 'working capabilities'. No one dog bred to his standards could ever be 'just' a family companion. That is not a GSD to me.

Jante says: "Some of you are missing the point. Dr. Raiser focuses on a healthy dog with working capabilities who is sound in the head. Don't know what is wrong with that?" We have that within the breed! Not staying within the breed is a HUGH problem!!! Like jdh says.... bringing in Mals would make the results totally unpredictable, Not to mention the standard not being upheld!! This much more possible staying within the breed and mixing the V conformation working dog that has tremendous working drive and correct temperament to a V and VA showline. I seriously question the "superior" health of a Mal! I have heard of many problems with them, including temperament as well as health. Debby

Raiser is outspoken and impatient. He has a right to be. He says things that are thought provoking, but he has the the working GSD as a top priority. He will say outlandish things from time to time, but he is one of the few people that is willing to fight the big bucks behind the show dog industry.

Kann mir nicht vorstellen das der Überhaupt weiss wie ein Hund aussieht...der kennt doch normal nur seine Elektro Geräte...

"but he is one of the few people that is willing to fight the big bucks behind the show dog industry." Does introducing another breed help? I don't know what else he was said on the topic. To me the problems lie with the judges that allow titles to be bought, arranged, and can turn a blind eye to either out of control dogs with faulty temperaments or weak dogs with poor work...Judges that promote their own breeding programs almost exclusively...Breeders that breed to dogs without ever seeing them - basing a choice of stud on a picture and show or trial result...Breeders and owners that have no clue if their dogs are environmentaly sound because the dogs never leave the kennel...handlers that never take their dogs off their own field for another trial...and a general lack of education within the ranks, both 'dog people' and outsiders as well. Rather than introducing another breed, how about starting with judges that are not afraid to fail any and every dog that doesn't meet the standard of work at a Seiger show or trial? How about judges that will dismiss dogs that are unstable? Until that happens you will have dogs on both ends of the spectrum being bred and reproducing extremes which are questionable. Introducing another breed just mixes up genetic palette but won't change anything because the real problems will still exist. Just my opinion, of course.

I think Raiser was trying to catch attention that something drastic does need to be done. I don't think he would actually have the Mals mixed with the GSD's. * how about starting with judges that are not afraid to fail any and every dog that doesn't meet the standard of work at a Seiger show or trial? How about judges that will dismiss dogs that are unstable? Until that happens you will have dogs on both ends of the spectrum being bred and reproducing extremes which are questionable. Introducing another breed just mixes up genetic palette but won't change anything because the real problems will still exist.* I agree with LaPorte on this and it may be what Raiser has in mind. If he up and spouted this, do you think he would be voted in? I think as long as judges are allowed to breed and make $ from puppies there will be bias judging made. Possibly at the point of judging one should be put into breeding retirement and focus on helping the bred in another way. Promoting the dogs that deserve it!

http://www.gsdcgt.com/la_times_article.htm

I agree with everything Raiser said in that article. I think there are many outthere who think the show dog is unfit for work these days. Of course ther are exceptions to the rule but for the most part I find it correct. I own one of those 7yr old broken down showlines, who can't break 10 miles an hour or be active for more than an hour without flopping down. She also can't get in the vehicle without help.

Laporte, how can I disagree? You're correct. Raiser says outrageous things to get people's attention. The breed is not so bad it can't be fixed, but people need to look at what has been done to a "working" dog. Look at how upset the true Border Collie lovers were when they got wind of the AKCs acceptance of the breed. They knew that physical attractiveness would be emphasized and working ability would eventually be bred out. It has happened to many other breeds already. I'm not sure we are far behind.