Watered Down sport?? - Page 4

Someone asked about changes in recent years, and that is what came to mind. I have no idea what went on in sch 20 years ago.
I do know that when I put BH on my dogs, the gun fire was still in.
Being as I only trained the obedience with my dogs, when I did the BH, I didn't know anything about the gun fire or temperament portion in advance....I just followed the judges instructions.

I had no idea people actually 'train' for the temperament portion.
My dogs passed, as I knew they would.

 

As for the sch training, I trained all my dogs from one through three before I put the 1 on them.

That´s what it is about - training your dogs as good as you are able to do - no matter the rules...

I totally misunderstood your "out of motion" question - BW is right, it´s for BH "only", and BH is supposed to be the ultimate trial for "pet dogs" and " dangerous breed dogs" over here ( SV only participating ) - the BH trial doesn´t affect the breed worthiness of a GSD, because BH only is the beginning of the way, far away from the end ( IPO, show rating, breed survey ) - at least till now.

Susie, do you really want to use the attack out of blind used in breed survey?🙂
Either way, I understand!

Susie, the BH is mandatory before the sch title. I didn't do BH for Pet dogs, but so I could go for the rest.

You don´t understand the reason of the existance of BH.
It´s a political reason, no breed relevant reason.
It doesn´t matter for the breed, you only need to pass.
Because of that it´s not even a "title".
Difficult to explain to someone not living over here.

Sure I understand, Susie. If a dog can't pass BH, they are not worthy to go for title.

I understand it is supposed to be a temperament test...that's why I didn't bother with 'training' for the temperament portion. I only trained the obedience. I don't see any valid reason to 'train' for the temperament portion. Pass or fail, my dogs are all sound, so pass was easy.

biggest change is way of training and type of dogs, compulsion became trick and treat, agression replaced by prey

in old training dogs were pulled around a blind on a long line till they understood, now they chase a ball around, you tell me which trainingway asks more of a dog

and dogs still make BH in a month, only not when they want to compete and get perfection, many dogs for competition are ready for IPO3 before they start titling

^ ineffective, unnecessary and cruel.

Easy to see what dogs were selected, ability to withstand pointless handler abuse.

Glad that's in the past tbh.

that is not the discussion VK, but you are right, the tougher dogs made it

I would dispute that defines toughness. Wonder how many great dogs got wasted out of the gene pool in that regressive era.

You are comparing Cabbage to GSP in mma saying Cabbage is tougher because he is a punching bag that can tolerate brutal waves of attacks, maybe so but he is a blunt object far from elite.