What do we miss about the older bloodlines? - Page 3

There's always Pit Bulls or cut an alligator's tail off and paint him black for those who think biting is all there is to a dog.

There's always another breed more suitable to the expectations of these EXTREME Show, Sports or LE/PP enthusiasts.

Question is, when they will realise that, and let GSDs be GSDs.

Health wise, today's dogs are better? HD is NOT the only criterion for deciding that !

@Swarnendo:

Health Wise? Though I see EPI, skin allergies, sensitive stomachs, DM, HD, ED, neurotic issues, thyroids, I now realize that there were so many more health issues in the past. I also now realize that though I had access to a few dogs in past, I never realized the many health issues that were worse then. I have really lived a good life in that I only saw good dogs in the past, and the issues above I run into, I am unfortunate in that they really aren't issues in breed because the breed is improving and these issues aren't pervasive enough to affect the over abundance of good working dogs as the breed was meant to be.

What do we miss about the older bloodlines? Nothing.

Dogs from the past were not better than the dogs today, dogs today are not better than dogs in the past. Both belong in their  time line.

Dogs of de past belong in a time where, our furniture was solid oak, our cars were big and power full, when sales pitchers were high performance/ heavy duty on almost anything you can buy. Picture a time with no internet and smart phones. When LE work was much different then it is today.

Breeders provided and we trained and develop our dogs according to the mindset of the time we lived in. In general dogs/ bloodlines have always been a reflection of the era and environment they lived in.

Like there was nothing special about the East German DDR  dogs in comparison to the West German WL dogs of those days other than the environment and time they lived in the DDR.

Generally concluding, dogs of the past are as useless today as dogs today were in the past.

Internet has brought a new era to the breed, dogs are healthier now then before because of the knowledge shared on the web. Also better nutrition, vet care and registration.

As an old man in my late seventies i wood say there is no point comparing. An Olympic gold medalist of the past is as good as a gold medalist of 2016.

Both best in their time line.

 

 

 

 

May we talk rationally for a while instead of using sarcasm?

Out of my personal experience ( talking about dogs in Germany ) "skin allergies" became worse, "sensitive stomachs" became worse....but why? We do see the same development in humans...

May it have to do with environmental influences ( chemical products, poisons used in furniture, all this pre-factured food we and our dogs eat on a regular basis ) ?

"Neurotic issues" ? I don´t wonder a working dog without structure and education, without proper exercise and a "job" tends to become neurotic. The dog doesn´t fit into "our" lifestyle = it´s neurotic, or worse, dangerous...

Even here we do see the same development in humans - children are sitting in front of a computer the whole day instead of being outside, no more friends out there, no tree houses, no playing in the woods - a new desease grew up, ADHS - as "cure" these "neurotic" kids get Ritalin...

Poor genetics or poor society?

Just food for thoughts

mithuna; do not miss the point? You are caught up in an image. Those old time kennels you mention were strongly networked with other top breeders-trainers-sportsman. You have a conversation on line with one of these people and overlook that they did it in real time with real people and ''real'' dogs [ what ever that means] while you are looking at a keyboard. Go get involved with top people, or take BBBB advice and buy a video from some on line place.

A lot of people here seem to
Not know what a real dog (gsd) is , they keep sayin whatever that means !! And these guys breed dogs and sell
Them to folks who shouldn't be owning them and if the dog doesn't fit the lifestyle well it's gotta be the dogs fault or must be bad nerves , that's exactly what happened to dobes, Rottweilers and gsd , mals are next ... let's weaken the genetics , aggression and dominance cause mr/ mrs x is Lonely or lacks social skills and feels the need to join a dog club and be a hobby breeder and something to look forward to every Sunday smh  .. ( about 95% of ipo or dog clubs ) just really really awkward people 

That argument only works, Shawnicus, if you believe the 'original GSD' was a noticeably aggressive animal (rather than an all-round dog that could be RAISED to aggression for a purpose). Since that was NOT mentioned by the originators of the breed - I challenge you to find any quote by Von Stephanitz that says that was part of the original definition of the German Shepherd Dog - I think your premise has a dirty great hole in it.

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FYI I spoke to Ma Ming on the phone and mentioned those kennels and dogs.