Some people just don't need to breed dogs.... - Page 4

And people wonder why members disappear. I think it is very obvious, why.

I love these personal vendettas. You guys don't like these breeders. Well then don't buy from them and quit following them around and commenting on their comments.

Some of you have in the past been cheerleaders for breeders you now hate. Wow, how times change and the people who used to complain about the haters seem to have become huge hypocritical haters themselves.

Oh, Mylanta. Once again, I am alerted to the nameless, faceless, spineless entity going waaaaaaay out of their way to find some dirt on me. Is is the best you've got? No more strip club websites you want to try to pin on me this time? Or crazy ads from sites that I don't even have an account with or belong to? I don't know about the rest of you, but I work 6 days per week and really don't have the time or interest (dare I say obsession?)  to search 6-7 YEAR OLD archives of everything a person ever posted in hopes I will find something scandalous.  If you have to go to all that trouble, perhaps there isn't much of anything to find. Just a thought. 

It looks kind of pathetic when things are taken so obviously out of context and follow-ups aren't posted...........like maybe the (no less than THREE) radiologists and ortho specialists who disagreed with ONE vet's opinion, which is all that was posted about...not an official reading by any certifying body...simply one freaking opinion, (which is all I had to go on at the time of posting and hadn't been able to read it myself yet).  

I guess subsequent films, and even later adult (7yr old) xrays 5+ years later showing acceptable, healthy hips don't count for anything; one vet's opinion based on his own very poorly positioned xray, inadmissible, even, by OFA's standards, is the deciding factor of the PDB jury. LMAO!  Back to the drawing board, Workingdogz. Try again. If you want dirt on me, try my sister.   She may have something  from back when we used to share a room.   Whatever route you choose,  please stop emailing my puppy buyers for your own bizarre personal reasons. If you need a hobby, try scrapbooking.

If you're going to post things for no other purpose than to try to damage someone you dislike, then make sure it's 1) TRUE  2)COMPLETE  3) CURRENT & ACCURATE  and also, posting who you are might give you a bit more credibility.....or maybe it would expose a possible personal agenda??? Hmmmm. 

This is the kind of crap that drives good people away from this site. I used to try to be patient and sift through it for the few good people left, but I gotta say, I haven't missed it a bit and won't miss it in the future. Just too much boredom, obsession, pettiness and hatefulness for one site, imho. Good riddance.

GSD, I'm sorry. I was alerted to this nonsense by one of the puppy buyers who had been contacted out of the blue by my detractor, and then I didn't refresh the page for a long time tonight before I came back to it and submitted my post. I didn't see your post before leaving mine. You hit the nail on the head. This is exactly why people leave. Pointless nonsense. 

Jenni,

It is not on you and you have every right to defend yourself against people who obviously have some issues of their own.

All,

Believe me folks my first attempt to address this was way harsher on these 3 or 4 members who know exactly who they are and who think the rules do not apply to them.

We are going back to banning first and asking questions later. We can't continue to allow a few members to keep attacking breeder members they have personal problems with and then expect breeder members to continue to post here.

We cannot grow this site with the constant breeder Nazis at work.

Then some of these same people question where have all the members gone, really you are that slow on the uptake to get it?

A lot of members are small breeders and not many will post here for fear that they didn't cross their Ts and dot their Is. This is crazy you people are adults and some of these comments seem to come from kids.

I am not in a good mood have been sick all day only to drag myself out of bed to find threads posted from other forums which is a direct violation of our rules.

Please everyone read the TOS and understand it. And if not don't cry when we play the subtraction game.


Last, I don't think this is a joking matter. IMO

GSD,
You mention that some members have been cheerleaders for breeders than they have changed their opinion of those same breeders.  I would say that most intelligent people may change their opinion of some breeders when new information comes to light.  I would say that any person with common sense and intellect will analyze any new information and then may adjust their opinion or their position. 

I would also say that some of the ads on the PDB are inaccurate and obviously untrue and borderline unethical.  We both know this to be true.  Many new members come here looking to gain information on the purchase of a new dog or pup.  Many new members feel safe and secure while perusing the ads on the PDB and researching their next best friend.  This forum gives many members the ability to promote themselves as experts and "world class" breeders, in some instances they are but in many other instances they are not.  Some members feel a responsibility to point out misinformation or breeders who say one thing yet practice another altogether.  I would say that some of the breeders that heave been highlighted recently have not always been very kind or polite in many of their posts to newcomers or those disagreeing, it is certainly not one sided.  I think you would be concerned about the integrity of those posting ads on here and possibly taking advantage of the novices.  I have been contacted by several new members who have had bad experiences buying from ads placed on this site.  Being a moderator of this forum certainly comes with the responsibility of verifying the ads posted on the site.  Perhaps, before shooting the messenger you should look into the validity of the information posted. 

Really, well according to Jenni these members have it wrong and she has the proof.

So now what? Slander is okay with you just to point out a breeder you folks don't like? Wrong. Go to the other forums out there and do your thing we are done with it here.

Funny Jim that other sites members complain about the attacks here and how their forums don't allow it, but here are there admins causing problems here.

The damn ads are free, what do expect? If we charge for them then people will complain. And some of the better breeders will take their ads to free sites.

You guys might be thinking you are doing the right thing but you are not. Bottom line is if you don't like it here go to other forums and attack and set the record straight at those forums and see how long you last.

I am going to play Moons here and say if Oli asks me I will tell him to burn these forums down, because the admins are tired of the BS and having to babysit adults who can't even be bothered to read the rules and follow them but will attack members who they preceive are not following some unwritten rules in their heads.

Knowledge does not give members the right to run over people they preceive to be doing it wrong. Are you more likely to help people by attacking every move they make or by helping a fellow dog loved get it right?

I will say in my eyes it appears to be GANG stalking of members that are not liked by a few.

There will be changes here and I will leave it to Oli to decided in the direction he wants to go.

We simply can't continue to go on like this with a group who has personal problems with members attacking those members constantly and then act all innocent like it is their fing duty to run over top of people they perceive are doing things wrong.

And you are wrong about verifying the ads, they are free and we cannot possibly check ads that are from overseas. Plus we do not have the time in the day nor the manpower to check the ads.

Classified ads on any site are not verified. I tell you what Jim I will make you an admin to spend all your free time verifying ads and I guarantee you will not be able to keep up.

THESE ADS ARE PLACED FREE AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO VERIFY THEM.

You can't be serious with the thousands of ads we get weekly.

lol.

I know how the ad in question was verified and that was a call to AKC, which turned out to only be half right. People have time to check ads that they have no interest in buying the dogs from. This is just looking for trouble and appears to be stalking in my book.

Nevermind!

Exactly.  It is always nevermind. You people are overzealous and the rest of the members see it but are afraid to stand up against the self proclaimed experts.

You go ahead and start verifying those ads and let us know when you find ones that are bad.

People posting religion in OT are a problem, people posting conspiracies in OT are a problem, people advertising are a problem, certain breeders are a problem--no the problem appears to be the control over others that certain members feel is their right.

So, yes, nevermind.