Changing AKC Registere Name - Page 4

Another angle this brings up. What is to keep someone from bringing in a titled dog from Germany, changing the name and wiping the title slate clean with sv by changing the name and the fact that a dog was trained and titled by someone then claiming to title the dog yourself by getting the titles going to the trials with a dog trained by someone else with a new name? Insta handler rep/ h.o.t. dog? lol oh my this is just all a mess and a very very bad policy IMO

There are lots of reasons why this "name-changing" option should be either stopped, or REALLY limited.. and definitely policed a LOT better than it is...

I am only guessing, from reading what was written, that Mystere has done it to perhaps to prove a point.. or as an experiment to see how far it will go...

I, too, am interested in the outcome...

As the dog is spayed, it will not produce more offspring, so the "buck" stops there, so to speak...

At least, that is how I have interpreted the response.


The reasons given as to why a person would WANT to change the name of an already registered dog... are not necessarily good enough reasons as to why they should be ALLOWED to change the name.

Another reason perhaps all the custody/ ownership disputes.

  To prove why it should not be done you have to think of what damage it can do. Right?

M: "You are, of course, entitled to your opinion-informed, uninformed, intelligent or just plain-ass stupid. 

S: Why thank you. How very magnanimous of you to allow me my say.

M: I am damn glad I did it and would do it again, should I feel so inclined."But, as this matter involved  MYdog and MY decision, your opinion about changing the registered name, or the reason for it in any respect, counts "less than toilet paper" --literally.  

S: Since it appears that this may be something that has not been attempted before (changing the registered name on the original SV paperwork) my opinion or your decision are equally irrelevant. It will be what the SV has to say that will affect many GSD enthusiasts, not just you or me. And as someone noted, this could be precedent setting . As such I almost feel compelled to alert them  to this thread and to watch for your request.

M: "I am not a breeder.  I really don't care how anything benefits breeders.  Moreover, I never said it benefitted any breeder.  You wanted to know why the dual registration (DUAL--meaning DUALLY USCA/SV-can't make it plainer), was desirable, presumably, to me.  I told you.  That you disagree is immaterial."

S: Your disinterest in what benefits breeders contradicts your interest in having a dog with pink papers. You did not tell me why the dual AKC x USCA/SV reg.name change was desirable to you. You gave me a laundry list of why it might be desirable to someone, all reasons having to do with a personal agenda, rather than what is of benefit to breeders through a breed club organization for the breed.

M: "Further, now that the topic has attracted the attention of  one of the true assholes on the butt of dogsport, I will leave the topic. If you or other rational individuals wish to discuss this further with me, you can do so via pm."

S: That was not very nice of you to call GSDnewbie an asshole. He/she seems like someone taught her some manners and he/she has an inquiring mind-both qualities I admire.
I don't blame you for tucking tail and running off the field. Your personal agenda at the expense of what is right for the breed is glaringly apparent.

 I was not aware I was being called the asshole lmao I am female fyi .  I know absolutly nothing about the poster or her dog. I was merely conversing about this subject as I had not heard it could be done.

   If I am ineed being called the asshole, well it would be nothing new except normally it is bitch :) . I stand up for what I believe in. That will make enemies. Especially if people are to weak to accept that others can have a different opinion without it being an insult to them. However, people will always know where they stand with me. I do not stab backs like most that have called me names over the years with fake friendship.

     If I have offended you, I am not sorry because I did nothing to feel sorry for. I was discussing a topic with no personal comment towards your situation and if you read any into it then it was your defense drive and not me at fault.

   If you are that offended at why you changed your dogs name then there is much more to the story than seeing if it could be done. You do not interest me enough to dig to find out why and it was not what I was interested in.

                                                                              Yvonne Brown

Re: Rule allowed by AKC regarding AKC name changes...
Here is the thread from the original post I did early on...
   AKC SOLICITS Members to change dog's name...
 http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins.read?mnr=443026

 I have continued to remain in contact with WDA President  Cindy Jones Peterson... this issue was originally to go in front of the board in their January meeting...but did not get addressed at that time due to lack of time to do so.  It was then scheduled to go before the board in their April meeting, and was to be addressed under their OLD BUSINESS topic, but again, time did not permit this to occur.   I called Cindy after the meeting had taken place, and was told that she had appointed a person (or committee??) to look into this. 
I have not heard an update since that time.

After seeing this post, I have sent another letter to President Cindy Peterson  at WDA, asking for a further update on this status.
I will post what I learn if and when I hear information on the status of this important issue. 

Regards,

Jean Schrader 
 

  Dear Cindy and Joy, I'm following up with what the status is on addressing the name change rule that AKC allows. Here is another link about AKC's name change rule.  
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins.read?mnr=484437&pagen=4#484706   This is MY original post on this subject.  I've been waiting to post an update as to what WDA was able to learn from AKC about this matter...   http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins.read?mnr=443026     Can you let me know if there anything happening on this rule being addressed directly with AKC, through the WDA? There are some REAL problematic issues with AKC with regard to this matter.
NO one else, NO registry that I could find, including horse or cattle registries, will allow a name change once the animal has been registered with a given name. Why are we allowing AKC to dictate this just solely because of the income this generates for AKC?
What about what this is doing to the lineage tracking of pedigrees, or loosing one particular dog from the stud registries completely, simply because it becomes a new dog with a new name?
I think it's outrageous that this be allowed to continue.

What is the position that WDA is taking on this matter?

Regards, Jean Schrader    

Because it was pointed out to me that others have attempted to use my post to  hurt feelings of individuals for their own reasons, I am compelled to respond here (again). 

1.  Absolutely NOT calling GSDNewbie and asshole.  Absolutely NOT!  She has done/said nothing to warrant such in this or any other thread, as far as I know.  So, NO , GDSNEWBIE, that was not about you at all.  I am not offended by your questions at all.  They are natural questions, and have been proffered in a respectful manner.  I am sorry that others have taken it upon themselves to upset or offend you with their interpretations
of someone else's posts.  As you said, you did nothing to warrant otherwise.

Furthermore, I changed it, prior to the wonderfu posts claiming that it was aimed at you. 


2.  Stephanie,  PLEASE do not attempt to put words in my mouth, or try to substitute your judgement on what I choose to do with my dog.  This involves a SPAYED bitch, so hardly impacting the breed in any manner.   Frankly, you are revealing more of yourself than you probably want to, but splatter away.    You feel "compelled" to meddle in what others do with their dogs, huh?    Then, to top it off, you claim that GSDNEWbie is being called names ...for what?  And for what possible purpose would you have done that, other than to stir shit?  

  btw-- It is not "turning tail" especially as there is nothing to "turn tail" about. It is called not wasting further time with miscreants.  Your posts make it clear that it is folly to attempt to discuss anything with you, unless one is fully agreeing with you.  Your reference to GSDNewbie is outrageous, dishonest and bullshit. 



3. As for my motives in making the change, "theories" that it is to prove a point or see how far it could go are wrong.  I have my personal reasons for making the change. Period.  No need to discuss or, as usually happens here, debate, those reasons with anyone--particularly as IT IS DONE.  

I am not upset or offended. well except hey why did this stephanie person choose me to call the asshole? lmao