STOLEN DOG - ILLINOIS USA - Page 37

Oh my, looks like I created a wee bit of a stir

My apologies OnyxGSD, truth is, I was in a tad bit of a hurry, and am on dial up, (already had my post typed) so didn't want to wait for the previous page to load, to check if I had the correct name and type it all again.  Dial up sucks.

  GSDmod, is right,  I got confused with Onyxgirl, certainly no disrespect intended, and nothing wrong with being a girl, in my books, as I am one! Well... a little older than one, but hey, call me a girl ANYTIME, hurts me not!

Does anyone have a link as to where I can try and download this police report?  It will be painful with dial up, but enlightening I hope. 

Thomas (wanna be P.I.)  I meant nothing by what I said, except that would be the only reason someone has to worry about being exposed, if hitting a dog.  I don't get the big deal here about admitting to a tragic accident?  In no way am I saying he hit the dog on purpose.
 

Red Sable

No wanna be PI
The investigation has been done by the police already. You can find it on the GrassRoots Yahoo Group file section. About the 7th file down it includes the necropsy and other documents
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GrassrootsUSA/files/
Just read it and you'll see why I'm so skeptical of all the claims and excuses.
The facts are, Al  has two pending law suits from his Schutzhund Club that WILL have serious consequences
if they are proven in court. This is about a lot more then a missing dog.

Thomas Barriano

From Thomas
"This is about a lot more then a missing dog."

Do you care to elaborate on that?  

@ Hunger4 , With your back ground as a prosecutor isn't the Whole reason the dog was in the road was because of irresponsibility of the owner leaving the his dog unattended and unsecured? It's a good thing that a person wasn't injured or even worse because that would be  a liability of the owner of the animal?

I'm wondering if this whole ordeal might incite animal planet to have its own version of "THE FIRST 48". LMAO. Good point fac2

Yes, if one allows one's dog to be in the road and damages are caused, the owner of the dog can be held responsible financially in civil proceedings.  In some states, there is a strict liability provision, holding dog/pet owners responsible for any damages caused by their pet.  Strict liability rarely applies in criminal law, other than in the case of statutory rape. Regardless, that does not eliminate the criminal culpability of someone who is involved in an accident leaving the scene without reporting it.  After all, how then, can one know if the dog was perhaps on the side of the road and the driver was drunk or texting, and hit the animal in the shoulder of the roadway?  That is the reason for mandatory reporting, so that the truth can be ascertained at the time.  I suppose if the driver or passenger are killed it might be possible to file manslaughter charges against the owner if they can show that the accident was the owners fault and they should have known their actions could have resulted in death, though I have never heard of that...

One person's wrongful actions do not negate the other person's failure to abide by the law.

Let your child wander and they are hit, you are responsible, but if they are struck and the driver speeds off and leaves the scene, leaving your child in a ditch, then they also have committed a crime.

Again, during the pain of the loss is no time for I told you so's.  It is just plain cruel and inappropriate.  I am sure guilt will be punishment enough, even if Hex was stolen.  Wag more, people, and bark less.

Unless you happen to live in Colorado (or any State with an open range law) and hit a BIG Bull that is known for getting out of the pasture numerous times. Then the bull owner has NO responsibility :-(

Guess how I know this? Actually that's a rhetorical question, don't ask :-)

Thomas Barriano

http://m.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.examiner.com%2Fdogs-in-national%2Fhigh-value-dog-stolen-tortured-and-discarded%3FCID%3Dexaminer_alerts_article&h=jAQEwrIoJ&refid=7

Please give us the article, as some of us do not do Facebook and so cannot see the article.  Thank you.

Don't you just love those FB citations, as though the entire world has embraced FB?

That particular article is not at all related to Hex. The original publication is at http://www.examiner.com/dogs-in-national/high-value-dog-stolen-tortured-and-discarded?CID=examiner_alerts_article and was posted to PDB several days ago already in this thread: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/bulletins.read?mnr=521748