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by beetree on 31 May 2014 - 00:05
I think the owner is telling the truth. I will tell you why. I think this breeding is a knock off of the labradoodle model, seeking another type of hypoallergenic, larger sized dog.
The Airdale is the largest of the terriers, and are currently being touted as hypoallergenic, whether this designation is true or not. Their breed standard does not indicate a 30 inch height at the wither, that is bit large. But who is to say there aren't some jumbo sized one's out there if someone has a mind to breed them out of standard. Instead of a Standard poodle, an Airedale isn't that far off to be a knockoff. And it is easy then to imagine a Weimeramer as a substitue for the Labrador part.
The other thing is, Irish Wolfhounds are difficult breeders. Mostly, always born via c-section. Live natural births are not the norm due to state of the narrow gene pool. They are also very short lived animals, even if they manage a natural death. These reasons make me think, Irish Wolfhound is not a smart choice for a designer dog in any way, shape or form.
As for the black coloring. That can be telling. We know the Weimeraner is a dilute of black. I would like GSDLineage to comment on her thoughts for the color possibility, but I think black will work.
Airedale Terrier
Dog Breed
The Airedale Terrier is a breed of the terrier type that originated in Airedale, a geographic area in Yorkshire, England. It is traditionally called the "King of Terriers" because it is the largest of the terrier breeds.Wikipedia
Hypoallergenic: Yes
Lifespan: 11.5 y
Higher classification: Dog
Temperament: Outgoing, Alert, Friendly, Confident, Courageous, Intelligent
Height: 58 – 61 cm (Adult, Male, At the withers), 56 – 58 cm (At the withers, Female, Adult)
Mass: 23 – 29 kg (Adult, Male), 18 – 20 kg (Female, Adult)
Now, consider the Weimeraner.
Weimaraner
Animal
The Weimaraner is a dog that was originally bred for hunting in the early 19th century. Early Weimaraners were used by royalty for hunting large game such as boar, bear, and deer. Wikipedia
Hypoallergenic: No
Life span: 10 to 12 years
Higher classification: Dog
Temperament: Alert, Steady, Fast, Aloof, Energetic, Stubborn, Powerful, Intelligent
Height: 58 – 63 cm (Adult, Female, At the withers, ...), More
Mass: 25 – 32 kg (Adult, Female), 32 – 37 kg (Adult, Male)

by dragonfry on 31 May 2014 - 01:05
Actually poodles are wirey coated which is why you can sculpt their coats. Because you can blow the wiry guard hairs straight.
But a lot of the labradoodles i see are wire coated. It's from the poodle side.
But they don't look anything like wimies.
by beetree on 31 May 2014 - 01:05
No, but the curly/wirey coated labradoodles never look like Labradors, either. At least the one's I've seen.

by dragonfry on 31 May 2014 - 23:05
I've seen some scraggly ones with lab bodies and weird scruffy coats. That don't curl like poodles do. They end up looking like some sort of "Griffon" breed.

by GSD Lineage on 01 June 2014 - 04:06
Did you ever sit in the poodle grooming area at a dog show?
Source: Google

by dragonfry on 01 June 2014 - 17:06
Why yes i have, as i'm a retired dog groomer. Though i never clipped a continential mostly just nice pet clips. But my boss was a former show groomer and her sister is a a top standard poodle groomer.
And on a technical note that hairspray is illeagal. The rules state "No foreign substances on the dog's coat" And i think hairspray and mousse is foreign.

by windwalker18 on 02 June 2014 - 04:06
Going to toss into the mix... The Lurcher. It's basically a combination of herding breeds mixed with sight hound of some kind. The one my boss had was Border Collie (1/2) Aussie (1/4) and Deerhound... looked a bit like these guys. He's got one now with OES, Border Collie and Whippet. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Lurcher.jpg&qpvt=Lurcher.jpg&FORM=IGRE They come in a number of shapes and sizes, from those who look almost all whippet to others who could pass as a Deer or Wolfhound.

by GSD Lineage on 02 June 2014 - 08:06
I think the hair sprays were made locally dragonfry
The lurcher is interesting windwalker18. We have always called mixes just mixes here. The newer names are just new names for the mixes. Beetree, the first generation crosses between two breeds are actually most often pedictable and you get very uniform littermates... after that though, it is less predictable if say two mix breeds are crossed. There has never been a serious market for them, and people have been able to adopt mixed dogs or dogs of unknown origin for free.
I am guessing Lurcher is a "part sighthound" then technically.

by windwalker18 on 03 June 2014 - 05:06
Yes, the Lurchers were the poachers dogs in Olde England, and were crossed herding/ X sight hound, but beyond that you can throw anything that fits into the mix. They don't breed to type, but I think there is a registry. Some of your Hunt clubs with Beagle/bassett/and Foxhound packs also have lurchers. While it may seem they're just another fancy mutt with a name of their own, from the reading I did on them when the Doc got his they've been around for 400 or more years. Never were a fancy show dog type, they needed to snag the rabbits and get off the big estates before they got caught... LOL
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