Trigeminal Neuritis - Page 2

I worked in the agri-chemicals field as a biological researcher for 21 years .. how is that for experience?? .. and I was a technical product manager and writer of product labels.  I not only can read a product label I can write one and I know how and why they are written the way they are .. not to protect the end user but to protect the company from liability.

That's nice Bubba. Have you had any hands-on experience seeing and treating the effects of paralysis from a tick borne disease?

Stay on topic guys, please don't drift off topic.

Test the dog for Lyme if lyme is suspected .. there is a SNAP test for this that is not precise but shows antigens.  Beetree  .. How does science work??  Science based diagnosis or BS based diagnosis??  She gave a dog with parentage sensitive to Invermectin a product containing invermectin and it has invermectin symptoms .. did a tick or spider just happen to bite the dog at the same time??  Just a coincidence that the dog got symptoms consistent with both invermectin and imidacloprid toxicity at the same time she gave the products to the dog??  The dog is on doxycycline and that is all she can do for tick borne disease except give higher doses of doxycycline.  The first priority is to save the dogs life and it will not die from heart worms or fleas but it could very well die from invermectin sensitivity from another dose of Heartguard with invermectin or imidacloprid from Advantix II.  The scientific answer is don't give any more Heartguard or Advantix II and hope the dog recovers from whatever it is .. but we know from science that the most likely cause is invermectin found in Heartguard followed by imidacloprid.found in Advantix II. 

Dr. Bubba, 
Are you saying the treatment is the same for the chemical sensitivity? Long term Doxy?

OP, I am curious as to the date you started the doxy?
Thanks in advance.

The likelihood of reaction to the amount of ivermectin found in heartguard is LOW, ESPECIALLY in a BORDER collie-cattle dog-chow mix. Read the current research on the MDR1 gene. And despite what you have posted, bubba, I have SEEN my dog exhibit the neurological symptoms associated with the MDR1 gene, and it is NOT like the OP posted. AT ALL.

- owner of a collie that tested mutant/mutant

The primary concern is that Missy recovers and lives.  Doxycycline is a prescription medication and must be prescribed by a veterinarian or it can be given by the owner without a prescription to their own animals.  LaylaM is currently giving doxycycline to Missy and unless she sees a need to stop treatment I would continue with doxycycline treatment for possible tick borne diseases since doxycycline is likely to do no harm.  I would advise that LaylaM discontinue Heartguard and Advantix II to give Missy the maximum possibility of recovery as it is most likely that one or both active ingredients in these two products is involved in the symptoms Missy is presenting.  Ivermectin in the Heartguard is the most likely culprit as the symptoms match ivermectin toxicity symptoms reported in dogs and Missy is a dog with Collie parentage and we know that Collies are at greater risk for ivermectin toxicity than most breeds.  I would also advise that there could be an underlying illness or disease that is involved and LaylaM should be concerned about Missy and any sudden onset event or illness.  Giving more Heartguard or Advantix II to Missy is not wise as it could kill her or cause a relapse if Missy is sensitive to either product or the combination of Heartguard and Advantix II.

BORDER collies are NOT at increased risk.
The symptoms do NOT match the symptoms of neurological toxicity due to the MDR1 mutation.

Mollyandjack .. if you are right Missy lives and if you are wrong Missy dies or relapses .. If I am right Missy lives and if I am wrong Missy lives .. LaylaM must choose.or rely on a veterinarians diagnosis and further testing.

Oh, let's go with this option most definitely: "rely on a veterinarians diagnosis and further testing."