BE AWARE!: Selling to Minors - Page 2

I think we are all wasting our time and effort with this person. She sent one of her posts (this one below) to me as a PM :

 I know I'm young, but my parents know that I am looking to get a dog, they've known for a couple of years. I am sorry for my previous comment, I was pretty upsent that someone would warn people about me. Again please forgive me, I do admit that my parents give me some things that I fancy for, but not everthing and I am very blessed for my parent, which God blesses me through them.

When I responded to it by stating a few home truths that clearly weren't accepted the response I had back was "whatever".

IMO this proves that this little girl is immature at best and will throw a hissy fit if or when she can't get her own way. Fortunately the law will stand in her way should she try to enter into any contractual obligations. Aside from this, until she grows up enough to be able to reply properly to adults on an adult level, her age will be given away by her attitude and immaturity in any correspondence she sends.

Maybe, TXgsd, you can explain precisely why you have PM'd me with a post you have publicly put on this thread please?

I have to say it.. we are all in the business of dogs here... and most of the folks here love dogs. 

Dogs are not jewelry... and they can be hurt if they land in the wrong hands. 

Sorry young lady, but you are going to need to do the adult thing b4 you get a GSD.  It is called "wait." 

TXgsd -

You still have an opportunity to get your puppy. I haven't ruined your chances. You just have to do things the right way. If you get a sales agreement/health contract, and your parents are working with you, then what is stopping them? Perhaps you are really trying to get a dog without parental support.   

If you are as intelligent and experienced as you say, why do you not know that a young puppy is not going to come to you housebroken and with basic obedience? 

All this shows a high level of immaturity, deceit, and lack of smarts. You don't bring a puppy into a home where it isn't wanted. And you are unable to even house break it yourself so what are you going to do when it gets older and bigger and is too strong for you to physically control?

And why on earth would you want a puppy to grow into a big, aggressive dog like its sire? If this dog were to hurt someone, it would be impounded and destroyed. And your parents would be sued in civil court and may even face criminal charges. 

Do you really want to subject both a dog and your parents to this? If you were as smart as you think you are, you would think of more than just satisfying some passing fancy of yours. 
  

I wonder what she got last Christmas?...a white pony?...

@ Wise Guy - does this member already have a sales agreement? has she alreasdy tried to buy a specific dog without adult supervision?

Sorry if I've misunderstood your post. To me, it reads as though a dog has already been sourced, considering you mention it's sire.

TXgsd,

Good things come to those who wait. Mid and late teens is a very tumultuous time in a person's life, lots of changes. While I would never tell a child "no," to a pup of mine, the transaction would have to be done by the legal parent or guardian over 18. If the child were paying herself, she can give her parents the money. Basically, I want a legal adult's name on every official document, including payment. Why? In part to cover my butt, and in part because I don't want a child trying to be sneaky, buying a dog; I ship the dog out, and a week later, or less, I get a call from furious parents who want to return the dog to me, and get their child's money back.

It's never happened, but it could. Easier to avoid the situation altogether by not taking a child's word that the parents are okay with it, and instead talking to them personally. A dog is a huge commitment and the entire family needs to be onboard before taking a new life into the household. Sending a dog out, then getting told it wasn't wanted and is coming back to me? All that is hardly fair for a dog. They're not parcels to be shuffled around. I like my dogs to go to a forever home where they will be able to share their entire lives with their new family.

I think it only fair, and only smart, to refuse business with a minor unless parents are fully involved and supportive of adding a new dog.



To everyone else,

Forgive me, but I hardly see it as mature in and of itself to pick apart a child's sentence structure. Who among us was not a naive, know-it-all 18yr old who thought they had life by the balls at one point? Heck, some folk might still be of that mindset, lol.

wow do people really have to be this rude to a young girl that has her heart set on owning a shepherd? we were all there once? ???

To those telling her what she can and can't have i sure hope you're her parents.... Until anyone speaks to her parents you cant say anything no one knows how they feel about the situation.  Who knows maybe they are dog lovers also? Why jump to the worst possible conclusion to make a child feel even worse? Why not wait it out and see exactly what the parent has to say? In the meantime you can educate the girl more and not slap her in the face and make her feel worse than she probably already does? Going to college etc.. We dont know anything about her do we yet? wait till you find out all the facts before you make any assumptions.

I am shocked at the amount of rude snarky nasty posts and no one really cared to even notice or stick up for her she even said she was sorry for the way she acted.

destiny4u, since you feel so strongly that we've done this young girl a disservice, I enthusiastically encourage you to enter into a contract with her, then.  The entire purpose of this thread was to protect BOTH anyone selling a dog that Txgsd might initiate negotiations to obtain, as well as protect Txgsd herself, since any contract she enters into on her own at this age is unenforceable--which would make her a much better target for an unscrupulous seller.  As adults always tell those who are underage, it was for her own good, too.

j.c. carroll, I cited the sentence structure soley because she felt that her intellect and membership in the honors society trumped not being of legal age to enter into a contract. 

TXgsd,

I would listen to the "legal" advise on this thread and get your parents help with purchasing a dog. But try not to let the personal attacks get to you, most of which I can only imagine were said by a bunch of old ladies without children who think its fun to pick on kids.

If its any encouragement to you, TXgsd, I purchased my first dog, a Border Collie, when I was 12.  Due to a tragic family incident soon after getting her, I had to care for her by myself, including feeding, training, exercise and health care.  We competed in agility for a few years and by the time I was 17, we had been invited to compete at a national championship.  In high school, I played varsity sports, maintained straight A's, and ended up getting into an Ivy League undergrad all while taking care of and training dogs.  I really isn't that hard.  Many on this board discourage college kids from getting a dog.  In college, I purchased another dog, and was still able to train the dog in SchH, maintain good grades as a pre-med, have an active social life, volunteer, and participate in ROTC.  Again, its not that hard.  If you want a dog and everything else in life, you can make it happen.

There is a 10 year old and a 12 year old who are training dogs at my club.

Don't believe anyone who says you are not smart enough, mature enough, or too young to accomplish something.

BTW, my spelling and grammer sucks, but I'm still rockin' it in med school!

Just a heads up to readers who do not know the story behind TXgsd.

She attempted to purchase a particular puppy but did not tell the seller she was a minor. She got sent a copy of the sales/health agreement. Then she was questioned about her age because of the nature of some of her questions and comments. At this point she stopped communicating with the seller.

She was told she would need her parents to read and sign the contract as well as call and talk to the seller.

At no point was she told that she would not be sold a puppy but her parents would need to be an active part of the transaction.

The seller was following the law and acting ethically - and thinking about the welfare of the animal as well.

TXgsd acts like she is 8-9 years old. She is NOT a professional or experienced "breeder" as she has previously claimed.