Dirty dog....Ideas?? - Page 2

Thanks for the ideas

I understand 100% that this isnt the ideal life for the dogs and I dont want it this way, However due to recent seperation and being left with debt I do not have another option right now... I have put word out for her being available to someone but to no avail. So I do what I can- my evening are spent entirelly devoted to the dogs and I can honestly say they get more than the averages dogs amount of attention and exercise though without doubt I wish it was more. But like I said....it is what it is and I do what I can.

How about your local rescue group(s) to help you place this dog.  I can't imagine 9 hours in a crate;  do you have a neighbor that could come let her out and through the ball fror her for a while, let her take care of business then put her back in her crate.  Or even an older high school student;  a vet tech you might know of just sell/place the bitch.  She is obviously stressed as I don't know any dog that wants to sit in their own mess.  Sorry but it's just plain fact.  Nan

I'm sorry - I have to chime in........  Do you people that are knocking red door go to sleep at night?  Do you all get up all during the night to take your grown dogs out to the restroom?  Or do they stay in their crate/kennel for the entire night?  My dogs do - and guess what - they hold it........... 

If you do then - hurr-a for you - but give me a freaking break - I go to bed  - sleep for 8-9 hours -(on a good night that is) and then get up and let my dogs go out......... What is the difference in if it is at night or in the day.  

Reddoor already stated he spends a good part of his night with his dogs, so I don't see there is a problem that would require him to give his dog up.....that is stupid!    Even in a 6x10 run the dog is going to spend the same amount of time pooping in it.........Some dogs are just nasty - and that has to be addressed whether it is in a 6'x 10' run, in a freaking back yard or a crate.........

He** I have a huge back yard that I will allow my dogs to run - they choose to come up on my back deck to do their business and raise there leg on on my screen door instead of going in the back yard they just came out of.........   so what do I do - I lock the stair gate so they dont come up until after they do their business.... 

Reddoor - first you need to address is your dog has a medical issue - upset stomach, worms, etc...
then address the time of day you feed - as well as water -  -   my dogs potty habits are like clockwork -   habit is the key.........some people just don't stick to a schedule - are you on one? if so, then check 1 and 2.  

Just my opinion.
YogieBear

Yes dogs can sleep in a crate at night for up to 8 hours but not just to be let out for 30 minutes then back in crate for 9 more hours. Good Grief!!!

Excuse me but Reddoor is the one that said they are trying to place this dog.  But Reddoor here is another idea;  what about a day care place a couple days a week?  Just a thought.   

Thanks YogieBear!

GSDloyalty...my dogs are not crated at night. Only crate time they are is when I am  not home. It isnt like they are in one all night, let out for 30 mins and back in...that would be awful!!

I dont particularily want to place this dog..someone on first page mentioned it.This female was a rescue dog when I got her- INRCEDIBLY nervous of anything and everything. I have given her lots of time to settle and she is only now starying to come around, but I do feel she may be a bit of a weak nerved dog- so therefore not a dog for the average person IMHO. Also, she has HD; again, not a dog that everybody wants.

She is great with me, great with my dogs. And excuse me for saying...but I am not going to give this dog up to an inexperienced GSD owner, or just someone who wants a gsd because they are 'pretty' This dog has had her issues...and she is finally settled with me and is a happy dog. She does not deserve to go into a third home at 2.5 years of age, and does not deserve to leave a home where she is comfortable.

Is their a problem with her in a crate? Yes. Is it medical, boredom or hygenic?...I dont know. But either way I am willing to work through it which is why I came here asking for help as I have run out of my own ideas.

Also, my other dogs habits are like clockwork as well...which is why I am baffled.
I have given her kongs/bones/toys in her crate to try to keep her occupied but..they just end up getting dirty.
Thanks for advice and suggestions, will definatly try them! Will also talk to my vet about possible medical issues...

I wasnt being an ass but crated or not, they sleep at night and to have to get up and run out for 30 minutes or so and then  in a crate. Im sure there is alot of energy built up in the dog that isnt getting burnt off and that will lead to bordon and bad habits follow.
I dont know what time you go to work but if you could at least get the dog out for a long walk early and release some of that energy that might help.

I don't think dogs sh** in their crate cause they have pent up energy.......... They do it for many reasons - but I dont think it is cause they have energy to spare...........  Only the element of elimination can determine why this dog was not crapping in her crate - and now is------the schedule has changed somewhat - the dog wasnt doing it before the schedule changed - and now she is -  not to mention - life style has changed ---figure out what has changed from then to now - I dont know if it was a divorce, death, or something else... but sometimes dogs suffer from losses - not sure if that is the case - but something changed in the routine..........

What I meant was that if the dog goes out in the morning and doesnt have time to poop and then gets put back in the crate for that long, you might have a mess on your hands. As far as energy to burn, I have found out if you get them out and walk them they can burn up some of that energy and you can make sure they do pee and poop.
If mine dont get to burn some energy off in the morning they would be so restless and if I had to crate them without making sure they pooped I would have a mess on my hands because after all night and a nine hour day they would bust. Now take a restless dog full of energy that has pooped in the crate. It would be everywhere.

A good walk in the morning before they are crated can only help.


 

Thank you Yogi !! The entire time I was reading this thread I kept thinking I crate mine while I sleep and that's 8-9 hrs.  I don't know if it was asked and answered and I missed it or not so if so I apologize.  Is the poop solid in the crate??  If it's not solid while you are figuring out why she poops in the crate you can give her canned pumpkin to firm it up, and maybe that will help.  You feed her at night and she is having issues durring the day, maybe try feeding her in the morning before you go to work and then she will need to go in the evening when you are home.  Sorry I don't have a fix all answere.  I have also had a few that started out that way and I did the same as someone else mentioned, when the crate was dirty I never yelled directly at the dog or hit the dog but I complained loudly about it, when the crate was clean I threw her a party, took me about a month and she just quit, hasn't had a problem since.