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Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 June 2011 - 04:06

Thanks, Jackie! He may not be quite showdog quality, but he's got a gorgeous head. No pedigree, so I have no idea what his lines are. Too bad...he's such an awesome dog I'd love to have a pup from his lines. Unfortunately, I had him neutered when he developed a very bad case of prostatitis at 3 years of age. Okay, I also would have had a problem breeding an unpedigreed, untitled dog. But now he's getting old, I'm asking myself if superb temperment, good hips and the ability to learn anything at the drop of a hat might have balanced out the lack of papers. Oh, and did I mention he also likely saved my life one night?

alboe, hmmm....never thought of foam. I was planning to use Roxul. Usually foam is glued in place, but there would be nothing to glue it to, unless I put it right against the roof boards, which, as I explained in my first post, is a no-no, as it causes the shingles to heat up too much.  As for Home Depot...I think all the clerks there know me by sight, as Im' such a frequent visitor, and until recently, often took my youngest dog with me to socialize her. (Then one of their employees got bitten on the face by someone's vicious little mutt, and now they've banned all dogs except service dogs...  )


alboe2009

by alboe2009 on 28 June 2011 - 04:06

Okay............. here's a couple of ideas for cost effect/savings. The joists are 18" O.C. then you lay the foam inside the "bays" (inside joist to joist) You either secure a lip so the foam "rests" on it inside the bay. Or even easier you run mason string or something like it the entire length of the garage, enough strands that the foam rests on this flush with the bottoms of the joists. You'll need two individuals or rent a lift, now use 12' sheets of drywall and they'll land 18" O.C. and less seams for taping and mudding. Drywall will be cheaper then the suspended ceiling.  

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 June 2011 - 17:06

But I've been told drywall will sag in between the joists if they are 18" OC. Or is there a way of using the styrofoam to help support the drywall?

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 28 June 2011 - 18:06

Nice place you have Sunsilver.  Where did you get your safety outfit?  I could use a couple of those.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 June 2011 - 19:06

It's a disposable coverall from Home Depot. They have them in the paint section. The goggles are from my nursing days, and the mask is a welder's mask. I found it easier to breathe through than the masks they issued the nurses during the SARS epidemic. ( I stiil have a package of those.) However, I was also told it really wasn't safe for the job I was doing. Oh well, the insulation has been gone for about 2 months now, and I'm still healthy...[cough, cough..wheeze] (That's just my hay fever acting up...

The coveralls are hard to bend over in, so the clerk recommended I get an XL. I was glad I did. I still had trouble bending far enough to pick up anything I dropped on the floor.

by Laural H on 28 June 2011 - 22:06



SunSilver

Add some blocking between the joists then you can nail the dry wall to that for support.  You should also use the thicker dry wall  3/4 inch
not the 1/2 inch stuff that is for walls.

Blocking is just adding  two by fours from joist to joist.  Really easy to do.

They also have a drywall material that has good insulation properties, sound proofing and  good fire rating.

alboe2009

by alboe2009 on 29 June 2011 - 02:06

Yep, what Laurel H said. Just trying to think what would be easier for you cost effective..... Without knowing the cost of a drop ceiling you have drywall. But that isn't a job for one unless you have a lift. The drop ceiling you could do yourself at your pace. You just have to make sure things are level for the initial grid. Weigh the pros and cons. If you want the satisfaction of doing it yourself I'd go with the foam settled in the bays and the suspended ceiling. But like I said.....don't know the cost? 3/4 won't sag but heavier and costs a little more.

by Laural H on 29 June 2011 - 05:06

Yes they are very heavy. My head still hurts a year later as it was the lift.

 Another idea is to use a roofing material.  It is a sheet of 4 by 8 plywood that is fused on one side with  3-4 inches of rigid insulation.
This way you can have a solid plywood ceiling and get it insulated at the same time. Just get some long screws or spikes.
 






 


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