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by Nans gsd on 28 May 2011 - 14:05
Well Hexe I am so glad you have been successful; and I did not say NOT to remove the tumor. Really that is probably the easiest and least invasive way to get rid of the tumor; then watch and wait. Some of my girls through the years did fine with that, some did not. So to each his own; I just do not feel after all my experience is mammary tumors that putting the girls through too much surgery or treatments is advisable and particularly not financially feasible. So sorry but that is how I feel. Wished I did have something good and informative about chemo treatment for dogs but I do not. So again to each his own. Have a great day all, Nan
and a safe holiday.
and a safe holiday.
by ShadyLady on 29 May 2011 - 01:05
Jackie I hope you won't have to make that decision and she'll die an old lady dog...
by hexe on 29 May 2011 - 02:05
@ VM--that she's gone two years since the mastectomy and hasn't had any recurrance is encouraging; every month that goes by that you don't find another mammary mass gets you that much closer to being able to breathe a bit easier. With luck, it was a benign carcinoma, and there won't be any additional masses. Fingers crossed for your girl and you!
@ Nans--I have no quibble with you as to chemo when it comes to mammary cancers, as there presently *aren't* any that have proven to be very effective against *those* cancers.
What I took issue with was your blanket statement that there were NO effective chemotherapy protocols for ANY form of cancer in dogs--because that is patently UNTRUE. Chemo for lymphoma gave a friend's GSD *two and a half additional years* of good quality life with her--time he wouldn't have had without the treatment. While 2.5 years of remission is on the upper end of the scale, I think most folks would agree that getting an average additional 12 months of good quality time with their dog would be desirable and worth considering treatment to obtain it.
I don't believe in prolonging life just for life's sake--and I don't look ascance at anyone who decides that chemotherapy is not the right course for them or their dog, either. But it is important that owners of dogs diagnosed with cancer have ACCURATE information to weigh before selecting the road they will travel, and the claim that there are NO cancers which can be successfully treated and have a more than satisfactory outcome is simply not the case. It is my wish that none of us will have to confront cancer of one type or another in our dogs, and it does sound as if you've had your share, and then some, of mammary cancer in dogs...so I can see where you could become somewhat calloused against the pain that hope too often brings in those instances.
@ Nans--I have no quibble with you as to chemo when it comes to mammary cancers, as there presently *aren't* any that have proven to be very effective against *those* cancers.
What I took issue with was your blanket statement that there were NO effective chemotherapy protocols for ANY form of cancer in dogs--because that is patently UNTRUE. Chemo for lymphoma gave a friend's GSD *two and a half additional years* of good quality life with her--time he wouldn't have had without the treatment. While 2.5 years of remission is on the upper end of the scale, I think most folks would agree that getting an average additional 12 months of good quality time with their dog would be desirable and worth considering treatment to obtain it.
I don't believe in prolonging life just for life's sake--and I don't look ascance at anyone who decides that chemotherapy is not the right course for them or their dog, either. But it is important that owners of dogs diagnosed with cancer have ACCURATE information to weigh before selecting the road they will travel, and the claim that there are NO cancers which can be successfully treated and have a more than satisfactory outcome is simply not the case. It is my wish that none of us will have to confront cancer of one type or another in our dogs, and it does sound as if you've had your share, and then some, of mammary cancer in dogs...so I can see where you could become somewhat calloused against the pain that hope too often brings in those instances.
by Nans gsd on 29 May 2011 - 14:05
To each his own Hexe; like I said I am glad you have friends that have been successful with chemo treatments; I have not. Have a great day. Nan
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