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MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 10 May 2011 - 16:05

When I bought my kelpie Rex, I looked at a litter, I knew was a good one.
All the puppies were going bonkers except one, who was not really impressed with
the goings on around him. He was by himself with his toy
completely content. So I came back the next day and same thing. The breeder said
his old male was like that and was really a good dog.
Rex turn out to be exactly like the breeder had told me . He was a very strong working
kelpie without any nervous ticks. This
amazed me because I thought  the nervousness just is what you have to live with. I have
never seen a working dog so lay back and
kick ass when it is needed, but Rex is the exception.

The reason I brought this up is I read an article about military dogs being  bred more
for being under control, rather than the old boarder
patrol dogs that were bred to be friendly only to there masters and suspicious
of others. They were having to many incidents of the
dogs biting other soldiers. My point is after seeing Rex I am convinced you can
have both .....in a reality environment.
The dog who was instrumental in the locating of Ben laden was such a dog.

Soft, hard, and sharp.....The balance. ...Genetics

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 10 May 2011 - 17:05

I have seen and trained with these dogs several times.  I have decoyed for their green dogs.  I am friends with several of their trainers and some of them have trained me and my K-9.  I know the guys that select these dogs and the type of dog they are looking for.  There is really nothing "soft" about these dogs.  They are balanced and clear headed and focused on the task at hand.  A great deal of their training is too integrate the dogs with the teams.  They have rituals they use in training and on deployment that conditions the dog to the operators and the dog views them as part of the "pack." 


Many of the dogs are real life war heroes.  Their training is incredible and the dogs are top notch.  One of the best things they do is care for wounded dogs and get them back to work.  I have seen several dogs shot by AK's, saved and back to work.  The level of care is as good as any soldier would get.   

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 10 May 2011 - 18:05

Day of the Dolphin.....

It won't be talked about .....but our little canine friends can be trained to run very fast to a marker.
A silent pitch ...only dogs can hear. Passed enemy with sufficient fire cover. To a target.....

The signal is placed next to the target by an inside asset.

The dog unfortunately is loaded with Plastique in a dog vest .


Soft means soft and supple...A good mind....not soft like a pussy.

My horse is  soft and supple but left untrained would stomp a hole
in anybody trying to ride her....She was bred on both hard working lines
high temperament. And off of King for a good mind (soft)....Hope that helps
people to understand what soft means in a German breeding report or
 a breed warden.

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 10 May 2011 - 23:05

We obviously have different definitions of soft and terminology when it comes to temperament.   

Jim

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 10 May 2011 - 23:05

Jim,
          Thanks for not calling me pig shit for having a different opinion.
But it is not my invention. This was set up many years before I
was born...Soft,hard and sharp are what German breeders refer
to when talking about the dogs temperament. But you must look at all 3
as they balance one another....Also in dressage they use the term soft and supple
to describe a horse that is relaxed and focused. (good mind)...any one of these can
be to much, it is the balance of all 3 that the breeder is trying to achieve.

Day of the Dolphin.....John Lilly did some extensive work with canines.
It is still classified to this day....

MAINLYMAX

by MAINLYMAX on 11 May 2011 - 00:05

Here is a military question....

What is fast, hard and unstoppable?

a...Max's mouth

b...a Malinois

c...none of the above.

d......all of the above

Here is my Utie, she is a peanut with an attiude....she is very smart...too smart.


Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 11 May 2011 - 01:05

C

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 11 May 2011 - 17:05

     ANY dog is what you make him!!! The pedigree don't make a dog, THE TRAINER DOES!!!!!!!!!!

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 11 May 2011 - 19:05

Kitkat:
ANY dog is what you make him!!! The pedigree don't make a dog, THE TRAINER DOES!!!!!!!!!!

Not exactly!   Genetics are a very big part of who the dog is.  Even a great trainer can not take just any dog and train him to do the things these dogs do.  That would be the same as saying a great basketball coach can teach  anyone to play in the NBA, or a great teacher can teach any student to be a rocket scientist.  It is just not going to happen.  With out the proper genetics, aptitude, drive and strength of nerve and character the dog will not perform satisfactorily.  That is why the trainers go overseas and test and select dogs.  They recently tested 70 good dogs to find a couple of prospects.  They also spend a fair amount of money on these dogs.  Don't think for a minute that any dog can do what these dogs do.  They are hand picked, tested and then trained with great trainers. 

Jim

Ace952

by Ace952 on 11 May 2011 - 21:05

ok Jim...what type of things can these special forces dogs do?

And I take it these dogs are not the same as the military dogs that once get retired are given away to ordinary citizens who apply?





 


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