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by steve1 on 25 April 2011 - 07:04
People are talking about this fear period in Puppies, this i do not understand at all. Every Dog i have ever owned in 60 years of keeping them were 7 to 8 week old Puppies.
Never have i had any other age dog, and over 60 years that is a fair number of Puppies going back to 1949 to 2011
Point of this is I have never seen any Fear period in any Pup i have ever owned, different Breeds of Dogs along the way
For me the problem here is the instability of the Pup, Somewhere along the line the Owner has done something to change the Pups behavior no one knows what but the Owner.
However saying that the Pup may not be what we call a real strong nerved Puppy, A strong nerved Pup nothing will ever bother it, Not when it is 8 weeks old or any age.
Overall as Chas says it is at the end of the day Genetics, what goes in can come out and then not all good comes out but a better chance of it happening,, This Pup is not the only one, there are numerous Pups the same way.
This is why a person has to be so very careful when purchasing a Pup of 7 to 8 weeks old then we do not always get it right no matter how good we think we are at selecting Pups.
The Breeder is the one to ask when you order the Pup tell them what it is for what work will it be doing they can then watch and see as the Pups grow and Interact with the Litter mates and Humans, As has been said take the Pup to places where it can here different sounds and People go steady but do not praise or give rewards or comfort if it shows any fear or such, Just say No a little light nick on the leash and get it walking firm commands with a calm voice, Hopefully it will settle down and change its behavior to a more happy settled one
Steve1
Never have i had any other age dog, and over 60 years that is a fair number of Puppies going back to 1949 to 2011
Point of this is I have never seen any Fear period in any Pup i have ever owned, different Breeds of Dogs along the way
For me the problem here is the instability of the Pup, Somewhere along the line the Owner has done something to change the Pups behavior no one knows what but the Owner.
However saying that the Pup may not be what we call a real strong nerved Puppy, A strong nerved Pup nothing will ever bother it, Not when it is 8 weeks old or any age.
Overall as Chas says it is at the end of the day Genetics, what goes in can come out and then not all good comes out but a better chance of it happening,, This Pup is not the only one, there are numerous Pups the same way.
This is why a person has to be so very careful when purchasing a Pup of 7 to 8 weeks old then we do not always get it right no matter how good we think we are at selecting Pups.
The Breeder is the one to ask when you order the Pup tell them what it is for what work will it be doing they can then watch and see as the Pups grow and Interact with the Litter mates and Humans, As has been said take the Pup to places where it can here different sounds and People go steady but do not praise or give rewards or comfort if it shows any fear or such, Just say No a little light nick on the leash and get it walking firm commands with a calm voice, Hopefully it will settle down and change its behavior to a more happy settled one
Steve1
by Sunsilver on 25 April 2011 - 12:04
Steve, you have been fortunate. And that is the correct temperment for the GSD. However, those of us familiar with the American line dogs (Rik for example) will tell you that there is such a thing as a genetic spook. It may be caused by lack of socialization, and people tend to make all sorts of excuses for dogs who show this behaviour, but often it IS in the genes.
I have not socialized this dog any differently than I did any of my other dogs, yet she has some serious fear issues.
I have not socialized this dog any differently than I did any of my other dogs, yet she has some serious fear issues.
by Chaz Reinhold on 25 April 2011 - 13:04
Tino, what would you like me to type? I was honest and gave a solution. Perhaps, this is what you want? Oooh, that's so awesome that your dog is scared. I love it when I get a pup like that. It gives me the time to work the dog through a very undesireable trait. I love working out problems like this. And the really cool thing is that once we have desensitized the dog, we can wait and see if it reverts back to its genetic make-up when it gets stressed. Kudos all around. Ttyl, gotta make smores.
by Myracle on 25 April 2011 - 13:04
Or even in the bitch.
Breeders, to include von Stephanitz himself, experimented with putting a litter of pups from a bitch with a stable temperament in with a nervy bitch to be nursed and weaned.
What they found is that even though there were no shared genetics, the "solid" pups learned to be nervy from the nervy bitch, and the changes to temperament were lifelong.
Breeders, to include von Stephanitz himself, experimented with putting a litter of pups from a bitch with a stable temperament in with a nervy bitch to be nursed and weaned.
What they found is that even though there were no shared genetics, the "solid" pups learned to be nervy from the nervy bitch, and the changes to temperament were lifelong.
by steve1 on 25 April 2011 - 14:04
RutavehausKFK
The way you write and ask is that it is you who owns the Puppy with the problem, anyhow that is how i read your post.
Is it in fact your Pup and if not why bother to post at all the real owner can do that. everything i have read on here is to try and help if that is possible nothing ashamed of any of it happening to anyone of us, None are infaliable when picking out Pups or a Mating for that matter.
Lets say for sure more Pups are born which do not come up to a persons standard than ones that are, Law of averages with the amount of Puppies churned out, None is the Pups fault just us bloody greedy humans
Steve1
The way you write and ask is that it is you who owns the Puppy with the problem, anyhow that is how i read your post.
Is it in fact your Pup and if not why bother to post at all the real owner can do that. everything i have read on here is to try and help if that is possible nothing ashamed of any of it happening to anyone of us, None are infaliable when picking out Pups or a Mating for that matter.
Lets say for sure more Pups are born which do not come up to a persons standard than ones that are, Law of averages with the amount of Puppies churned out, None is the Pups fault just us bloody greedy humans
Steve1
by Mystere on 26 April 2011 - 19:04
A question was asked and an answer, with a solution, given. If the source of the proposed solution is an "issue," perhaps consider PMs to specific individuals.
Tino-- Chaz proffered a solution to the problem presented. Nothing negative about it. If you "never post," why have I seen your name already repeatedly today?
People--GROW UP!
Tino-- Chaz proffered a solution to the problem presented. Nothing negative about it. If you "never post," why have I seen your name already repeatedly today?
People--GROW UP!
by Mystere on 26 April 2011 - 19:04
Hmmmmmm...... That's a lot of "never."
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by MAINLYMAX on 26 April 2011 - 23:04
Good post topic....Undesirable actions
Observing puppies is some thing I like to do..My puppies typically are reckless, wild, and
full of piss and vinegar. Indifferent but curious about everything until they are
about 1 year and than they begin a strong mistrust for certain people. The
old saying if your dog does not like some one you probably should not like them
either. Has a little truth to it. But never the less I put alot of energy into desensitizing
a dog to people in general. This is with working lines, but has good implication for all
dogs as well. The pups will go from playful to serious adults to be reckoned with ..if threatened.
The only thing that comes to mind..if a puppy is nervy at large objects and sounds... his eye sight may
not yet be fully developed....But that is the only thing I can contribute. Unless he is fearful. Hope that helps.
by steve1 on 27 April 2011 - 08:04
I note that Rutavehaus KFK did not reply to my question, so i guess the dog belongs to her, why she should not say i do not know, it is a part of what goes on with dogs nothing more
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