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by gouda on 23 January 2015 - 19:01
Most serious students of Scripture are aware of the Lord’s admonition to the church at Sardis (Revelation 3:1-6). In it, Jesus speaks of the few people who have not soiled their clothes, who will walk with him, dressed in white, for they are worthy. Then he says the general statement, “He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels” (Revelation 3:5).
Remarkably, there are those who say, “Jesus said he will never blot the person’s name from the book of life. That does not mean that there are others whose name he will blot from the book of life.” Such an interpretation assumes Jesus is just suggesting a possibility that will not or can not exist, not meaning what he is saying.
Besides a straightforward reading and understanding of the prior passage, an incident with Moses removes the possibility of such a misunderstanding. The setting is in the desert when Moses has come down from the mountain from a time with God. God warned Moses that the people had become corrupt, that they had cast their gold in the form of an idol to worship it. God threatened to destroy the people. Moses interceded for the people and God relented. Moses punished the people, then went back up the mountain to intercede again for them before God. He said, “But now, please forgive their sin — but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written” (Exodus 32:32).
The Lord replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book” (Exodus 32:33). God has said he will blot out of his book those who sin against him. That is exactly the circumstance to which Jesus spoke to the church at Sardis. It was a church which thought itself alive. Jesus said it was dead. He called them to remember what they received and heard; obey it and repent (Revelation 3:3).
gouda

by gouda on 23 January 2015 - 19:01
gouda
by vk4gsd on 23 January 2015 - 20:01
yeah but god also says;

by gouda on 23 January 2015 - 20:01
This prophacy of canibalism was fullfilled in
the siege of Jerusalem,see the psrallel prophacy
in JER. and its gruesome fulfillment in LAM.4:10
VK do you no anything about this seige? if not I suggest that you find and read about it,
that way you will better understand this prophecy.
John
by vk4gsd on 23 January 2015 - 21:01
so the scripture is like a guide to better living. you approve of this.
can you provide me historical documents / sources about this seige please historical as in outside of the bible written by historians, xian apologists.

by gouda on 23 January 2015 - 23:01

by 1Ruger1 on 24 January 2015 - 01:01
Gouda ~ I can't keep up with your copy and pasting ~ I am always glad to post and give folks something to think about and challenge your thoughts and ideas ~ We will never agree on theology, but what we do have in common binds us together, I am always up for a straight one on one conversation using our own ideas and such if you ever feel up to it, but I am not going to get into a copy and paste war ( I honestly read none of it ) ; it bores me! ;)

by 1Ruger1 on 24 January 2015 - 01:01
Vk said,
"well that sux, only the elect are going to heaven, a bit exclusive isn't it, not very xian?"
Lol Yes, very exclusive! And it's very xian ~ actually it's ALL xian ;)
by vk4gsd on 24 January 2015 - 01:01
What a disgusting saddist death cult you are in, your god IS evil.

by 1Ruger1 on 24 January 2015 - 02:01
First thing Vk darling ~ I prefer to use the words "Gods people" instead of Christians or xians~ Be assured that only those who belong to God will go to heaven. Not one of Gods will perish, from Adam, to this very day not one will perish~ No, not evil ~ but exclusive indeed. As God; He has that right. Sorry you disapprove. :)
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