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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 11 January 2014 - 06:01

OK guys, now I have read the extract KitKat presented on 'Silver Labs'.

Well, that was a stirling example of objective writing, in itself, was it not ?
NOT.

The author(s) may well be correct in their criticism of Smith's ruling.  I really
would not presume to know;  I only even heard of 'Silver' Labrador Retrievers
for the first time a matter of weeks before Jenni's pups were born.  And I
claim to know next to nothing about LABRADOR genetics or bloodlines.
Silvers have not hit the UK yet, as far as I am aware.  No doubt they will;
I am old enough to remember a time when there were 'no' Chocolate Labradors.
Now look how many there are.

I'm afraid that if I read a supposedly educated piece on these lines about GSDs
I would not give it much priority, because of the emotive way it is written.  It IS
possible to disagree with any statement without going on about it being "heavily
laden with the authors personal bias" and "ulterior motives".   [That does not absolve
Smith, either, who seems to have done much the same thing.]

One point I thought was rather unnecessarily semantic, but on which the writer
seems to set great store, was this definition of a difference between 'dilution' being
due to a LACK OF or WEAK whole pigment, and the "SPARSE Arrangement" of
pigment in individual hairs.  SINCE THE EFFECT would seem to be the same result,
whichever is scientifically true, that seems to me to be "how many angels can dance
on a pin-head ?".

 

by Blitzen on 11 January 2014 - 08:01

Much too much ado about nothing......whatever it is/was it appears to be self curing.

by joanro on 11 January 2014 - 08:01

If his little stripe doesn't go away, will he be doomed to do cartwheels his whole life ? :-/

guddu

by guddu on 11 January 2014 - 08:01

How about applying some Rogaine...Wink Smile

kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 11 January 2014 - 09:01

My point is Linda,blue is blue,genes are genes...they are all the same,just different breeds.
And to show how far "seemingly" intelligent peoplewill go,to create issues with blue dogs.
Blue genes are in most breeds and have been since the beginning of the breeds.
Alopecia DOES exist in some dogs,no one ever denied it.
The blue dogs I have known did not even have dandruff....

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 11 January 2014 - 09:01

Hundmutter, you and Kitkat seem to have a "tit for tat" thing going on about blues that has nothing to do with this puppy or my question. I don't mind a bit (truly, I do not!!! mind off-topic debate in threads like some people do- I think it's more natural, honestly), BUT, on topic, ie, THIS puppy, could you please show me any evidence of CDA evident FROM BIRTH in the exact same mark, unchanging (save for normal expansion of area from growth)?  I can't find any. I'd be fine to diagnose him w/CDA, a cosmetic issue, with no other known serious health implications, but due diligence tells me I cannot and it's not that simple. When the research says "early on in life" if you look, you'll see they mean sometimes before a year old...8mos. or so, not the very day they were whelped. . I think if they meant "birth" they'd say "birth" or at the very least "puppyhood."  Remember, 2 vets found it an insignificant "what the heck?"  issue and resigned to calling it unexplainable and making jokes about it. They were well aware he is blue and thought it irrelevant (and they could be wrong!). So, maybe in the UK there is more published data on the topic than I can find that would go along with this CDA idea. You can PM or email me links or even just search terms that have been helpful to you  if you have them; you don't need to take too much time with it. 

This is the puppy who was examined at 2 weeks when they got sick; he's the only one in the litter who has actually been examined by a veterinarian. The only comment about him was how very strong and feisty he was for a sick 2 week old puppy. His lungs and heart were listened to and no abnormalities, save a faint line on his head, were noted. On the contrary, he was the picture of health besides the swollen lymph nodes (which half the litter had- sables and black and tans! Not blues!) 

Now, c'mon, Guddu. Everyone knows Rogaine is toxic. Tongue Smile

Joan, not sure about the cartwheels. He says it's the mark the devil put on him. Devil Smile

Blitzen, & Joan (earlier post)- agreed. Makes a person wish they'd never asked "anyone seen anything like this?" I guess I may as well have asked "Should I drown this puppy now or later?" 

I think if more people were "open books" so to speak, and posted their breeding "adventures," in this manner, as a whole, we'd be more educated. But I surely understand why people don't want to and are afraid of being totally honest about their dogs. I think it's a shame, honestly. 

by joanro on 11 January 2014 - 10:01

When I have something that puzzles my vet and myself, I promise I'll ask here. But so far, my "adventures" have not warranted such a question. Perhaps one day.......

by joanro on 11 January 2014 - 10:01

I thinking something like the tumbler pigeons or fainting goats, like maybe there was some hidden behavior connected to the mystery mark.lol

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 11 January 2014 - 10:01

Joan, I wasn't accusing anyone of anything. I've gotten PMs sharing stories that were similar, though not the same, from people who were smarter than I was and knew better than to post. LOL

by joanro on 11 January 2014 - 10:01

I didn't think you were being accusatory at all. It's been an entertaining thread.:-)





 


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