DeGeneres vs. Mutts n Moms Rescue - Page 5

Just a quick story.

I wa searching the shelters looking for prospective sar candidates. I came across a beautifulgerman shepherd. This dog was wonderful disposition with nice conformation. I was told the dog did no obey and had been returned to the shelter 2 times. The first time she was adopted out to an older lady . The dog kncked the woman down a flight of steps, she broke her hip. The second home was with 2 young children. "dog too hyper". This gal had wonderful hunt and prey drive.

While examining the dog I found her tattoo in her right ar. The shelter was not even aware there was a tattoo. After visiting with her several times, I found she responded to german commands. I contacted a FEMA k9 handler inTexas. The team was willing to pay for adoption fee, trnsportation fees etc. They even supplied a letter on official letter head. he dog, should she not work out would be kept by the handler as a pet. NO OUT OF STATE ADOPTIONS.

My next attempt was with the Coat Guard. They tested the dog at the shelter and wanted her for narcatocis work. NO ORGANIZATIONS CAN ADOPT!!!

I was told I could nt adopt her myself because I had an intack dog in the house. End of story, this beauiful gal was euthernized!!!!!

Sarah

Yep I have kids and grandkids so your question is moot. This rescue has a policy, adopters know what is it. It is even verbally read to them. From the research I`ve done they seem to be both reputable and have an outstanding success rate. So let the hairdresser have the dog, now what about the other people that were turned down over the years? Hey who cares about that Rescues policy. In fact lets fire all the lawyers and do away with all contracts. Have a heart, why should I have to worry about a mortgage the kids love it here. I`m going to break the contract but let me keep the house, after all the kids love it and it would be traumatic for them to move.

Give me a break...it`s no different. May all the people that the Ellen supporters enter to contractual agreements with be so reliable.

kutzro- Even Walmart can make "exceptions" for special cicrumstances to cater to the public and promote their reputation. The people who got turned down by this rescue in the past obviously had good reason to be turned down at the time.  The hairdresser never even had an opportunity to provide proof that the dog was in good hands and she was perfectly capable of caring for it properly.  The dog clearly was in good hands and doing well- the rescue just wanted to make a big deal out of nothing.  You used a home mortgage as your anaolgy to breaking a contract???  Well even mortgage companies make exceptions when people have certain situations.  They don't like to take people's homes but instead make a reasonable attempt to work with the owner as should have been done in this situation.  My business heavily relies on contracts- government contracts and even they have made exceptions to their rules.  It all depends on the person pushing the paper if they WANT to make the exception and in this case the woman from the rescue clearly did not have a heart and was not willing to do that. It will be interesting to see how this ends because I'm sure Ellen is not gonna let this go without sicking her pit bull lawyers on the rescue group and burying them in legal fees to fight this.  I hope she does and I hope they go broke for being so stupid to make a big deal out of really nothing other than a technicality.

What  The H-LL!!  Why is America Sooo bent on these "F" up contracts?? " If you EVER want to give your dog away you have to let me know"...This is nothing but more SCREWED up American legal crap! You can Have your Dogs and your contracts Too!!! I will NEVER by a dog unders such contractual agreement. I understand I am stepping on Many toes here. Once I purchase a pup, a health garauntee is all that is truly needed. I can,t believe the crapp you Americans come up with. I can understand the AKC crowd coming up with this nonsense, but Schutzund people???  " If you ever abuse this dog I can take it back"  What nonsense!  In these days of Micheal Vick, The Ear pinch is conciderd abuse, even more the force retrieve! You people are freaken nutz! 

You people!? WTF does that mean?

When I lived in Germany I was told by several people, that a breeder was in their right to come take the dog back even years after purchase, if they felt it was not being cared for properly.  With a first rights contract, you are not saying you can remove the dog, you are just puting yourself out there as available to take the dog back at anytime for any reason. No one wants to sell a pup and turn around to learn it was dumped at the pound or left tied to a tree. The purpose of a contract is to leave both sides feeling secure in the transaction. No one hopes that they actually have to use the contract as leverage someday. Hey though, shit happens! The buyer wants that health garauntee, well the seller wants the opportunity to buy the dog back if you want to get rid of it in teh future. Where is the harm in that?

4pack- good point.  That's exactly why we have contracts so that EVERYONE feels protected.  If you're not comfortable with the agreement then don't sign and go about your business.  Someone who is gonna care for an animal and act responsibly is not gonna be concerned about a contract.

Hopefully, because of the media attention, some good can come out of this for society at large.

I think the lesson to be learned is this:  

Be very cautious in agreeing to any contract when purchasing a pup. In the vast majority of  cases what the contracts stipulate are protections for the breeder and curtailment of rights for the purchaser/adopter.

I'd argue that if you don't AGREE that the conditions are those that you WANT to impose upon yourself - don't proceed.

Personally, I recommend to people looking for pets to avoid all rescues because of the oppressive rules/regulations/inflexibility and downright pathology of the whole movement, which seems to me, to resemble a cult.

"Conditional" contracts when purchasing or adopting a pet should be subject to the approval of one's lawyer. (They'll be less likely to allow you to sign away your rights than you will be.) If you can't afford a lawyer - perhaps you should limit yourself to only  obtaining a pet that can be had without any contract......

Entering a contract that elucidates your obligations but negates your authority/ownership is in a word - foolish.

ABSOLUTOMENTA!!!!...........I think thats how you spell it!!............

Anyone else hear that Ellen has been caught giving away another dog that was given to her?  The plot thickens but it doesn't change my mind that rescues can be over-zealous and just downright nuts.

Here's that story