The Truth About AnezkaK9 LLC and Julie Leoni (Bernet) - Page 3

What breeder on earth would offer a health guarantee beyond genetic defects?  That's the whole point of pet insurance.  As a breeder, the only thing I guarantee is that you're receiving a healthy dog at the time of purchase, and you have 72 hours to get your own vet to confirm that.  Beyond that, I don't know how you treat your dog or what you feed him, so why on earth am I going to guarantee his health? 

The health guarantee alone should've been a red flag to you that this was too good to be true.

Careful with terminology. Breeders usually offer generous lifetime guarantees, but only strictly worded warranties attached to a contract.

Hips / Elbows mainly.

Ok TIG: these were Jinopo dogs to begin with. We were all looking for " working dogs" not sporting or club dogs. We wanted a certain line and opted to go with what was offered and guaranteed. With the circumstances surrounding her surrounding and what she presented people bought her hook line and sinker. So if you are a breeder or a trainer I my opinion no three of the same will ever agree on how to do anything the same. so what does it really matter how or why we chose, that has nothing to do with the law.

So some people got ripped off and all some of you can do is to come here and tell them that it is their fault because they did not do due diligence?  How does that help them?!  As I understand this this was posted for people with similar fate with this kennel to band together and deal with AKC and try to get the papers.  I am posting on this here and exposing myself to PDB wrath  only because it was me who suggested that to them. And for that I want to apologize to them profusely. It was foolish and totally IDIOTIC  of me to expect that these people would get help here or at least little compassion. My thinking was that this  could be good forum for these people to join together and find each other and deal with AKC together. But instead they  ended up,  like the  girl who got raped just to be accused by people   that she dresses too provocatively and thus she asked for getting raped. .Attack the victim!!!There you go. That makes it all better. Right? 

 TIG not everybody is as sophisticated as you are. These are honest people with problem. I am actually trying to help them to get papers on the litter from AKC,... they need DNA on the stud who is now  I believe in Canary islands. These people need advice and help an not to get kicked in the prominent parts  by you and  by your 20/20 hind side vision  and moralizing and insinuations that they did something ( being it truth or not)  which caused them to get ripped off. And showing them what they should have done...what good does it do now. .Some good Samaritan you are!   Is this always all about gotcha sucker - I am better then you,... whom I fail to understand , hahaha?  Well call me rude ass as i was called here before. At least I have compassion to plight of these people and trying to help them. 

Well before you decide to kick me in the gut I say this. Yes, I sold these dogs to Julie and I did investigation on her and she showed me high priced cars some well over hundred thousands $ , motorcycles  and immaculate place and pictures of great kennels.  So what? What good did it do?  Not much! I feel bad for those people even so I did not do anything wrong I am trying to help them. 

And about talking to vets and clubs, I heard that one re before .. do not make me laugh. Vets can not and will not reveal any and specially not negative information on their client. How do I know ? I TRIED IT! And   basically it is liability for them to say anything negative at best and they are not going to open themselves  to  trouble and litigation. 

 And  talking to clubs?  LOL You surely must be jesting.  Have you ever talked to people in clubs?! Have you ever heard the old worn out adadge  that in a club only one thing 2 people agree on is what the others are doing wrong. Well it is mostly the truth. Not always,... but 99% of the time it is.  Thus talking to clubs is great vaste of time. 

 Escrow and buy locally and what ever. You know why people buy dogs from Europe? Because  most best dogs are coming from Europe.,...or not. What ever. But  what does it make any of your business? Does it mean that if someone buys dogs from a certain   distance  and they get ripped off that you automatically should tell them  how wrong they are buying from more then 50 miles away? .  Can you tell me how buying loco would more likely make the breeder to give them papers and not let say get into drugs ( not that this is a case here  just an example)  and turn them selves  and their clients life up side down. 

  If you can not help them, why don't you leave them alone. They suffered enough.

 Prager Hans

I agree Prager, it really sucks that these people got ripped off, especially for thousands of dollars. The facts should be made public. 

No one is stopping any of the people who got what they bargained for from posting their positives.i would be screaming from the roof tops if I got beat like that.

   And a guarantee is only as good as the person that offers it. I guarantee my dogs for life from genetic defects. I also don't give you three days to get to the vet. Most things that might come with a puppy has a definate  time to show up, most are within the 2 week time frame.

   But defects, if there, might not appear within the first year or two. I mean really, how hard is it to give a replacement pup?

   And anyone that requires the return of original is trying to get out of the guarantee. Why would anyone expect someone that loves their dog, to return it for a new one. What is the breeder going to do with it...

    I know I myself would prefer to have owners happy with me and my dog. Word of mouth and a little integrity goes along way when breeding dogs.

I know a couple of those stating they got cheated have got dogs from other breeders, they ain t here complaining about those.

It really is crappy to do a person dirty when they just want a nice dog. 

I have  a problem breeder myself. This dirtbag bought a dog, through a rescue situation, with NO AKC papers,

Well of course she bred the dog, and has the pups advertised as from AKC parents and that she is working on getting the papers.

   She was told before she bred the dog, if she wanted the registration, she had to pay for them. She did not. I told her there is not even litter reg on the dog. She was sold as a pet, than shuffled around a few times and made me nauseous,  esp when I found where she ended up.

   It really is a doggy dog world in the dog business.

I am a very strong proponent of doing lots of research on who you buy dogs from.  I also believe con men come on both sides, buyer and sellers.  I don't believe in bashing anyone.  State your proof,  Let everyone make their decisions from there.  I haven't seen anything posted from these people that would be bashing. I also haven't seen anyone post any kind of defense.  Even people who do all their research can be taken.  Anyone can be scammed.  If you think you can't then you are leaving yourself available to be the next victim. I also don't automatically believe everything when a person says they have been wronged. Always more to a story then what you hear. It has been said before "better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt".

 

There really is two sides to every story, and it isn't only the buyer who gets taken, and most of the time the dogs get the short end of the stick.

    I sold a pup not long ago to a breeder. The terms were made crystal clear. I thought I knew this woman good enough to do the right thing. Boy, was I ever WRONG!!!!

    She got a beautiful female pup, it was agreed if the dog didn't work out for breeding, she would be retufned to me, and she could get another,

    Well, before the dog was 6 months old, she was living with a  family, to be returned to 'the breeder' to get bred, and delivery time, 

   Well, she was to much dog for this home and she was returned to the breeder, (this woman knew perfectly well what bloodlines I had),

   I offered to take her back, she was not returned,  she was 'sold' to another home, and, couple weeks later, returned again, to breeder, again, I said bring her back, (but no profit there),

   Now she goes out the door again, this time, the perfect home, again...to much dog.

I begged for my dog back, barely 6 months old and already four homes because she was to much dog.

I said , for christ sake, you have a young German Shepherd pup from strong lines, what did you expect.

I was told she was more suited for police work than family dog. I contacted the co ordinator for NYSP K9 here in NY, and he was anticipate ing her into the program.

This 'breeder' refused to sell my dog back to me, even tho she couldn't handle her. 

THAN comes the icing on the cake, she told me she paid MORE THAN TWICE WHAT SHE WAS CHARGED FOR THE DOG!!!!

   I'm like 'hello', I sold you the dog, I know what you paid for her. Well, she hD the receipt she claimed showing what she paid. I mean seriously??

   I offered her puppies, 2-3 as a replacement(I knew they would not be staying with her, or she would not get another dog from me), she refused.

   Than I started getting well, rather nasty over it. That is not acceptable for me, for my pups to get tossed from home to home. My God how I cried for my dog, numerous nights

   So, than she gonna tell me her hips were bad, fine...than sell her back to me, NOPE, sold her again...

I now have no idea where my dog is, she don t answer when I ask...

I researched , after the fact, because I thought all the talks we had, that she was good. So, imagine my surprise when I find an article about her selling her pups, "in BULK", I thought I was seeing things.

Of course, she 'rehomes' ALL her dogs, after they don't produce any more pups, my God, my dog sure payed that price.

   Now I have no doubt her dogs are well taken care of, in their kennels all day, and I have no doubt she looks for great homes for her pups, 

But her idea of acceptable is far, far away from mine.

So yeah, greed does funny things to people, and dogs certainly are only an after thought to many

In general it is hard to feel all sad and compassionate for people who are in the business of "musical dogs". Who coined that, first....? I can't remember. Keith? Or you? 

Cracks me up reading the moralizing from some people. And while the letter of the law might exonerate some distasteful behaviors, don't forget the court of public opinion. Those verdicts can be much worse.

Kitcat:   And anyone that requires the return of original is trying to get out of the guarantee. Why would anyone expect someone that loves their dog, to return it for a new one. What is the breeder going to do with it...

No not necessarily. What if someone says" "I hate my dog" . What about if the dog is being  abused? Too dangerous for the owner.? Threatened to be put down. What about if the owners reasons are bogus and they just want another one for free? Should I keep going? Kitkat you obviously are a nice person. I can tell. But you must not judge others  by what you would do. That may work or may not. 

 Prager Hans