Just another Sport Dog - Page 6

correct Hexe, not because they are pets first, but because all dominance and (civil)agression is being selected/bred out

 

secondly I dont care to have to put a muzzle on a dog at the vet or closing my dog when relatives visit, that all comes with responsible dog ownership and finally VK is right about gravity, seen a lot weak dogs coming out of strong dogs, but dont see many strong dogs being bred out of weak dogs

duke1965, you're spot on re weak dogs coming out of strong dogs, but not vice-versa...and that's why I'll go to my grave insisting that the cornerstone of a truly strong bloodline is the bitch--stud dogs come and stud dogs go, but the motherline carries through. Take a truly strong female who is prepotent, and one can build a dynasty if one knows what they're doing.

Hexe, absolutely re the bitch being the cornerstone of a breeding kennel. I'm getting ready to do the same line breeding for the fifth time, with a fourth pair of dogs, on the same female...four of them were 3-2 , this fifth time will be 3-3 on the that female.
The young dog playing in the pool with his little girl is offspring out of one of those line breedings...his dam is 3-2 linebred. His littermate sister is a working detection dog being used in schools amongst the children and has made several busts, the first one on her first day on the job. Temperament and sound nerves big league !

I'm not even going into that whole debate again. Same old poop, different day. I'm keeping the same principles as my parents did. It proofed them right and so far, I'm very happy with my litters.

Current litter has 8 pups: 6 IPO homes, 1 Police Prospect, 1 SD Prospect.
I'd say that is a damn good cut!

Also, most importantly with the females is nerves and temperament. Solid nerves, solid character and solid temperament. Without that, you've got nothing. Drive is absolutely secondary in my breeding program. I've got loads of that. Don't have to worry about it.

Barenfang: " I'm not even going into that whole debate again."


What 'debate' are talking about? What have Hexe and I said that you consider 'same old poop, different day' ?

Not you or Hexe.

It's about those "rough n tough" dogs and what Duke said. We've rehashed this over and over and over.
While dogs like this are valuable for breeding to keep aggression it shouldn't be the norm.

Gotcha. And I agree.
Thank you for clearifying.

bearenfangs, you are contradicting yourself big time

I say we have to be careful that agression and dominance is not bred out

 

you say im wrong, but  dogs like this are valuable for breeding to keep aggression 

 

Oh for F's sake. It's not a contradiction. You choose to not understand and that's why I'm not discussing it. BTDT... I don't need dogs that can't be touched. However, we still need them to not lose aggression. You can have dogs that are social yet civil and that's what I prefer to produce. I don't want or need dogs that can't be touched, I leave those to people like you, but I know their value for breeding. No contradiction!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzTU9gQllxw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Couple nice Dobermans in this training vid, and a Bouvier that I hear is a tough sob.

 

I agree with 'they should not be the norm', refering to above post.