Understanding my new German Shepherd’s Pedigree - Page 1

Hi I recently got my newest pup and I have been looking through the pedigree, but was hoping someone could give me a little more insight based on the info I have.

Here are his parents. Appears he comes from west German show line, but holding someone could take a look and explain it all to me.

Dad: https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2691457-bako-z-rodu-tytana?_v=20180301190519

Mom:
https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=3037191-davina-von-domition?_v=20220309164009

Thanks!!

Yes your dog is out of showlines. There is no such thing as West Show Lines since 1989 and German unification. There are show lines and working lines.

Re Father: Kappenberg is a known Austrian show lines breeder near Villach. The breeder is Johann Koller. Some big dogs in pedigree are Ober 2010 Sieger, Sabaat, Furbo and Orbit.

Re Mother: Do know breeder. Only a few impt dogs in pedgree Illiano and Kanto

Father's line is stronger.

Okay. So, Ursus von Batu is 5-5 (twice in the 5th generation) on his sire's side (https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2186974-champion-vom-kapellenberg?_v=20170124095707). Then he is 5-4 (once in 5th generation, once in 4th generation) on his dam's side (https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=725754-oklahoma-padaroko?_v=20190906141734). There are reasons for this combination like that one dog. BUT because he's so far back, we have to look at the grandchildren of this dog for genetic influence. So, let's take a look at his granddaughter, (https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=131691-aike-zum-gigelsfelsen?_v=20150311003043). What positive & negative traits did Ursus pass on to Aike? Now. Let's look at his other granddaughter, (https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=394502-ultra-vom-kapellenberg?_v=20170728234002). What positive & negative traits did Ursus pass on to Ultra? What traits did Aike get that Ultra didn't get and vice versa? Champion also has vom Fichtenslag blood in his lines. This is a very well-known GSD kennel.

Now. That's just one half of the pedigree. Let's take a look at the other half of the pedigree. https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=725754-oklahoma-padaroko?_v=20190906141734. Ursus appears 5-4 (once in the 5th generation, once in the 4th generation), through his grandson, (https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=399629-quenn-vom-loher-weg?_v=20141111200629) and his grandson, (https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=389915-orbit-vom-huhnegrab?_v=20180220212917).

Now. On the dam's side, Davina also has (https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=399629-quenn-vom-loher-weg?_v=20141111200629) 4-4. So, Ursus appears in this half of the total pedigree too. She also has Remo, (https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=575327-remo-vom-fichtenschlag?_v=20211019142225) in her pedigree.

Interesting pedigrees. Worth looking at in more detail. Ursus was such a significant dog that He is ubiquitous... Most Showline dogs have Ursus somewhere.

A more important development is that both carry the great dog Timo vom Berrekasten. Usually found these days in 8 or 9th generation.

Both pedigrees have dogs that "work", like Kevin v Murrtal, most of the Bad-Boll, Arlett dogs and their ancestors, like Bad-See tend to produce good temperaments.

Another thing is the female tail lines. Breeders usually keep females. If you have a long line of females from a good kennel, they usually represent "the plan" of that breeder.

Like I said... Worth looking at in some detail.

 

Charlie said: "Another thing is the female tail lines. Breeders usually keep females. If you have a long line of females from a good kennel, they usually represent "the plan" of that breeder."

really, this is as well put as I have ever heard. a good generationtions breeder will do this and hopefully weed out the faults as they go.

sadly, there are also breeders who only breed what wins, let the next guy worry aboult the consequences.

jmo,

Rik.