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by mufman63 on 11 August 2014 - 16:08

Does anyone know how to petition the GSDCA to remove temperament testing from the mandatory requirements for CHIC?

There are absolutely no tests listed for this entire region in 2014, there are only 7 qualified testers in the United States, and although it's a terrific thing to have for your dog, let's face it - it is not a health issue that should be involved with the CHIC.  I can't find contact information on the GSDCA website.  It seems like it would be better to have it as optional until it becomes more readily available.  

 


by Blitzen on 11 August 2014 - 17:08


SportGSD

by SportGSD on 12 August 2014 - 11:08

I wanted to find out where I can do the test? I'm in Canada.


by Blitzen on 12 August 2014 - 12:08

http://www.gsdca.org/events/temperament-testing

I would email Gene Gray and ask him. If you're looking for a CHIC, the dog must also have certified  normal hips and elbows.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 12 August 2014 - 14:08

What is CHIC?



Psycht

by Psycht on 12 August 2014 - 15:08

Blitzen -

I do not believe that the hips and elbows have to pass - just that the results are published.  CHIC is all about the publishing of testing results - both good and bad - for breeds.  From the CHIC FAQ page:

"A CHIC number is issued when test results are entered into the database satisfying each breed specific requirement, and when the owner of the dog has opted to release the results into the public domain. The CHIC number itself does not imply normal test results, only that all the required breed specific tests were performed and the results made publicly available. (emphasis added)

A CHIC report is issued at the same time as the CHIC number. The CHIC report is a consolidated listing of the tests performed, the age of the dog when the tests were performed, and the corresponding test results. As new results are recorded, online CHIC information is updated.

Once included in the CHIC program, the breed specific requirements are dynamic. As health priorities within a breed change, or as new screening tests become available, the breed specific requirements can be modified to reflect the current environment. If the breed specific requirements are modified, existing CHIC numbers are not revoked. Again, the CHIC number is issued to a dog that completed all required tests at a given point in time.

CHIC will provide the parent club quarterly reports consisting of both aggregate numbers and specific dogs that have been issued CHIC numbers."

My breed club is currently considering amending the CHIC requirements for ACDs.  The process is the club has to approve the suggested changes and then it is submitted to CHIC and CHIC has to make the final approval.  With that said, I would be surprised if CHIC disallowed changes suggested by the national breed club.  In our case we are considering

 lowering the age of acceptable Pennhip testing to 12 months and adding PLL (eye disorder) to a required test and PRCD-4 (eye disorder) to an optional test.


by Blitzen on 12 August 2014 - 15:08

You're right, I always forget that they only need to be xrayed, not certified for a CHIC designation. Why? Beats me. That makes the OFA website a very valuable tool when trying to determine the health status of specific dogs. I think it lists the results of all the tests they recognize.


Psycht

by Psycht on 12 August 2014 - 18:08

The xrays need to be evaluated by OFA but the dog could come back as severe and as long as the owner chooses to list the results on the OFA database they will get a CHIC number.  It is all about publishing all the results in an open database not just the good results.  I am a huge proponent of CHIC because like you said the publishing of health results is such a valuable tool.  I find it interesting that there is a temperament test required for the GSD.  In looking at the CHIC database there are 754 CHIC GSDs which does seem like a small amount when compared with ACDs who have 138 entries and whose breed numbers rank far below that of the GSD.  If the temperament test is hard to come by that could explain that. 


Smiley

by Smiley on 12 August 2014 - 19:08

Disagree strongly with OP. No way should we would remove the Temperament Test. If you are going to write to the GSDCA to bitch about anything, it should be to accept ATTS results not get rid of the Temperament Test. Something I have already done to no avail but you could try. There are more ATTS tests in most areas. Another suggestion...approach some local GSDCA clubs and ASK them if they could host a test and offer to help. You would be suprised how many will try to be accomodating.  And yes....I showed up with my german working line dog and passed the temperament test at a local GSDCA club becuase I value the process. It is not the be all, end all but a good piece of the puzzle.






 


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