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Gigante

by Gigante on 05 December 2015 - 15:12

Thanks for posting the rules Susie. I see what you are going by. The SV has no ability to curtail severely problematic breedings or any breeding for that matter. If serious problems arise but the basics are met and money is collected the dogs will enter the pool and the breeder may continue to produce the issues. So yes a ban on the pairing seems unlikely with the information that you are aware of and have posted. This does not change the evidence that the pairing created extreme problems, only that the SV has no control over it.

There is no sentencing phase here ;) so the court of law analogy is not really valid. The "ban" is not the relevant issue, the results from the breeding are. Since there is no requirement for the litter to be judged by the SV it can only be judged with skewed results, the passing littermate.

Its being posted that theres a concern the dogs where banned, to be clear no one has ever stated, that Ive heard, the dogs where banned, only that the pairing was not to be done again. We don't want people to go away thinking that Sven or Sindy might have been banned. People not familiar might over think having these dogs in there line individually.







susie

by susie on 05 December 2015 - 15:12

No problem - I only struggled about this sentence: The SV banned breeding Sven/Sindy. just a note draw your own conclusion.

Now we are fine...

Gigante

by Gigante on 05 December 2015 - 16:12

That is the standing opinion from the majority in the east community as it was passed down. It has not been refuted. Perhaps the breeders, owners or SV will weigh in at some point.

susie

by susie on 05 December 2015 - 19:12

Gigante: "If serious problems arise but the basics are met and money is collected the dogs will enter the pool and the breeder may continue to produce the issues."

I am glad at least over here we do have "some basics" ...

My English is not the best, but even I am able to understand sarcasm - I simply questioned your statement.


Gigante

by Gigante on 05 December 2015 - 20:12

Dont be silly your english is awesome. That was not a shot directed to your country, just the facts mam. The registries, yours, ours mostly everyones is a corporate money making operation. Dog well being, second. None will ever hold a candle to the GDR'S. We should have alot of banning not discussing if there was one.

susie

by susie on 05 December 2015 - 20:12

In this case I think different - the "institution" SV with its rules and reglements is very good, made for the breed, not for money.
SV is no breeding registry, but a breed club with a own registry, responsible for one single breed.

A lot of shit happened in SV ( and still happens ) - but all of this was and still is produced by humans ( breeders, handlers, judges...), not by the institution in itself.
Our breeding rules are great, but they need to be followed, not undermined by some of our own members and high officials.






 


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