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by Rheabird on 24 November 2006 - 02:11

Hello. I'm part of a small gsd rescue in cincinnati ohio. There's a HUGE NEED for volunteers and gsd experienced foster homes. We get phone calls and emails daily about help needed with local shepherds in kill pounds. and i have yet to visit my local pound and not see at least 3 sheps there at any 1 time. We only have 4 foster homes and ~10 volunteers. Anyone here have CONSTRUCTIVE advice on how to 'grow' the rescue efforts & support in my town?

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 24 November 2006 - 03:11

Why don't you see if some breeders in your area will donate discount coupons (for pups) to you for people who will be willing to temporarily house an adult homeless GSD? I don't want to make it seem like a raffle or something, but what better way to qualify a buyer and help them decide if they really want to own a dog of this breed? They'd have to do right or they'd be subject to blackballing with participating breeders, right? You'd have to prescreen these fosters, of course. But you could use some of the volunteers you already have more efficiently to mentor and monitor the new, less experienced volunteers. If you were real lucky, some of these temporary foster homes would end up wanting to keep their foster dogs. It's just a thought. You could also hold events through the parks department to give recognition to foster homes, and make it like a family day or get-together. The key is to get more people involved, so you can expand on the volunteers you have.. Without burning them out! Make it fun, provide support, and new people will get involved. Another hint: If you set it up as a non-profit organization in your state or another state like Nevada, you could possibly gain more liability protections for your people and it is very inexpensive to do. I would not recommend that you try to make it a formal 501 (C) (regarding IRS tax status, but you can file your corporation as a non-profit with the state and in some cases it is so low-cost that there is no legitimate reason NOT to do so. Simple to maintain, and lots of other benefits too many to list here, depending on the specific laws of your state, of course, but most state laws allow you to use volunteer help, gain legal protections, excuse your organization from the need to buy insurance if it is not affordable, and so on. If you are interested to form and maintain a Nevada corporation at a very low cost, let me know and I can put you in touch with someone very reliable and very, very cheap. You would probably have to register with your state, probably the Secretary of State, to conduct business in Ohio, but this would also be very low cost, I believe. If you are doing something like this, there is only one way to go, and that is up. But watch out that you are not stepping on anyone's toes and that you cover all your bases really well. The kill shelters and labor bosses may look at you as competition and try to take you out under trumped up cruelty charges. This has happened apparently many times in other places. Don't worry too much, if you are professional and use only screened volunteers. Don't keep many dogs in one place, and many people can cover each other pretty well and don't make an attractive target. Just keep a low profile and watch your back.

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 24 November 2006 - 03:11

By the way, do you know Nancy Sutton in Ohio?

by EchoMeadows on 24 November 2006 - 03:11

Rheabird, while DDRDSH give some lengthy but very good advice I would disagree on one point made, I would say you need to be seen, heard, and fell over, meaning you need to be anything but low profile. Rescue efforts are recognized by publicity, a few efforts you are successful with will give you a few refferences, not as many as you would hope, The only way to actively recruit more individuals to your efforts is to get the word OUT !! Low profile will gain you little or no extra help, little or no extra potential homes. However in order to NOT stomp on toes get a good relationship started with local shelters now, let them know what your doing and that you would like to offer your assistance, I work with several breed rescues when I have something that I think will be difficult to place I don't hesitate one moment to call them, and they help me too, If they get overloaded and have a nice one that they just can't seem to find the right person for, They will bring that dog to me, we simply put have more foot traffic than they do, We work together it's great. Best of Luck to you, and please if you ever feel you would like to email me privately you are very welcome to do so.

by K-9 Helser on 24 November 2006 - 04:11

PLEASE READ THIS DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS RESCUE , FOR MORE INFO PLEASE E-mail ME ASAP spdk9@woh.rr.com ! I HAVE HARD PROOF OF WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT ON THIS ONE LIKE , RESTRAINING ORDERS E-mails , PICTURES , CRIMINAL COURT RECORDS ( MANY OF THE COURT THINGS THAT THIS RESCUE AS ON HER RECORD HAS TO DEAL WITH THE RESCUE DOGS IN HOW SHE CARES FOR THEM AND HOUSES THE DOGS I HAVE , VIDEO AND SO ON ! PLEASE THINK HARD AND LONG IN WHO YOU DEAL WITH ! ONCE AGAIN PLEASE DO NOT DEAL THIS THIS RESCUE I MYSELF AND SOME OF OUR CLUB MEMBERS HAD TO LEARN THE HAD WAY , BTY THIS RESCUE HATES PROTECTION WORK AND ANY THING THAT DEALS WITH schutzhund dogs and any other SPORTS other than AKC CRAP ! The name of her rescue is Destiny's German Shepherd Rescue http://destinysrescue.com/ She is more like a hoarder in Ohio who thinks she is running a rescue , One time I was in her home and she had over 20 dogs in her home , Her home looks like a crack house and there was dogs with parvo and other things wrong with them allover the place , dogs would crap on the floor and she will leave in sit . the place was what I would say was way beyond gross , I say to all of you Help us save the dogs in her care and shut this hell hole down once and for all ! Thank you Timothy

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 24 November 2006 - 05:11

Wow, Timothy! Well, who knows? Certainly not I! I don't know this person or what their operation is like. But we do get all types in rescue. All types, and some not too tightly wrapped. Echomeadows, I hope that things are better in Ohio than in California. Here, the public employees' unions have super powerful lobbies at all level of government, and they resent do-gooders, because that takes their work and budget away from them. Trust me on this much. I actually heard of a union boss up in northern California who made a lot of trouble and filed a lawsuit against a high school teacher, because he took his youngsters out on a field trip to clean up a riverbed below a highway overpass. The teacher just wanted to teach the kids some things about philanthropy and environmental responsibility, etc. But the labor boss saw it as taking work from his people. Most of them are not so plain and open about it. If your rescue gets in their way by taking work from them, they will try to shut you down. I know someone with a pretty big, successful cat rescue, and this happened to her, twice. The animal control people moved in on her and closed her down. I was never there to see what her place was like, but I have no reason to believe anything was wrong with it. She did this for many years. Believe me that anytime someone tries to set something like this up, unless you are in line with the non-profit powers-on-high, you are risking trouble. You will never see it coming, most likely. So, you may think you are fine with them and then one day the boom comes down on you. Doing a little work here and there is one thing. But rescue work is only for those who can really do the CYA thing very well. Professionalism. Sloppy rescues are cruising for trouble. You cannot give them even one small reason, and believe me that if they want to find something, they will. Let he who has eyes, see. I also said that rescues should go big if they could, but then I started to think about it and corrected myself. You have to deal with the authorities in a way that they approve of, at the very least. If you are a maverick, out on your own, you are risking very big trouble.

by EchoMeadows on 24 November 2006 - 06:11

Ohhh ya I agree with you, Profesionalism is a must, But I manage the shelter here and work with breed rescues often. We don't see it as competition we see it as another helping hand. If all transactions are professional, and the BSR (breed specific rescues) are screened and cleared we gladly work with them. But I see what your saying too. :-) Good points.

K9 Solutions Center

by K9 Solutions Center on 24 November 2006 - 16:11

I attempted to work with this lady about a year ago to help us place a dog we had that just did not work out. It was a bad experience. She did not even show up to pick up the dog after we drove it to Cincy, then later we fouond out things that made us glad she did not get the dog. I think the reason the rescue has not grown is pople are smart, and they know what is "behind the scenes".

by mercedes1005 on 24 November 2006 - 17:11

The rescue mentioned in this post is the reason why I started my own. The policies that she "makes up" are atrocious. I volunteered for her for many months, and tried to help her rescue clean up. Although she has done some good things, I look at what she continues to do. A dog that she has up for adoption by the name of Mikey, (the katrina dog) has a long fear bite history, and dog aggression, he used to chase my daughter around the yard, barking and growling, and snapping at her. My daughter was 5 mind you, and scared the crap outta her. This is a dog that was recommended to be PTS because of all the problems. Instead she kept him, and now has him back up for adoption. With NO mention of the history. The place has no way to keep her dogs and rescue dogs seperate. Many rescue dogs had to be PTS because of fighting with eachother, and sickness. Parvo, and whipworm runs rampit in her yard. When I tried to get her to take a 4 month break from taking in new dogs to clean up the yard, she didnt. She has many many small dogs, running around with the bigger dogs, and even though she says that the dogs are crate trained, they arent. She doesnt believe in crates or Kennels At all. None. So she has 20 dogs (when she is only allowed 8 per the county) running around together in her house and out of her house, pooping everywhere. Yes it was gross. My husband almost turned and walked out when I took him there in the beginning to go adopt a dog. He was disgusted. This is a rescue who while their heart means well, does not go about it the right way, and many dogs have suffered because of it. Medical problems keeps the rescue owner from doing things right, and mentally a little unstable from my experience, and my husbands. I tried to help, and things just were not getting done. So I left the rescue on very BAD terms, they legally can not contact me in any way, I have that court order. I am starting my own rescue, in hopes that people will be able to see how truly good rescues can be run, and lives can be saved. While my rescue deals with working line GSDs and retired K9s, I am willing to help with any GSD or rescue. There are so many rescues that are doing the right things, and being successful in the end. I tried my best for that rescue, and my husband is now helping me to start my rescue. He saw the conditions that the dogs were in, and the one that was supposed to be good with Cats and crate trained, that I adopted, that tried to kill my cat all day long, going through doors to get to him and all, and screamed in the crate on a constant basis. After 2 days of trying to contact the rescue to meet up and return the dog to hopefully find the one that worked... No answer, I had to call the volunteer in KY to help, and she offered to take the dog in at her place. She had that dog at her place for months. No one wanted that dog. He ended up supposidly being adopted by a police officer... Who knows what for though.. All I know is that a good heart isnt enough. All rescues are subject to scrutiny, and public eye, and the ones who do the right thing succeed, and the ones who dont...well we know what happens, dogs suffer, people dont deal with that rescue anymore, and they end up being picked on.

by mercedes1005 on 24 November 2006 - 17:11

DDR-DSH you put forth a LOT of good info in ALL the posts that you do. Very professional. May I ask what you do? Just curious, that is all. You seem very intuned with politics and government. And while you assume that some places dont deserve to be shut down, may I say, that the Animal Shelter (dog warden) has been to her place MANY times for all kinds of things, she is now on community service because of all the charges. So I am sure that if a place was shut down, it would be for very good reasons. This rescue if it continues the way that it does... Will be shut down. Hopefully things change. Her business suffers because of her unprofessionalism, and constant lateness, and just plain not showing up as K9 solutions center found out. I am not here to post lies, that just hurts people, but sometimes the truth does too. This is a rescue that if turned around and managed can do good things. If it continues the way that it does, many dogs and people can get hurt. I pity the family that would attempt to adopt Mikey. Hopefully things and people change and a good thing takes place. A rescue that has problems will no longer have them and get to improve the rescue community. Sloppy rescues puts a bad name on those rescues who are all about the good.





 


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