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by SK9s Place on 12 March 2011 - 02:03
Just wanted an opinion from other GSD people. I have an extremely nice working line female that I bought as a puppy for a working dog. I have worked alot with her, have 2 titles on her, and am training for tracking and obedience. She is gonna be my everything girl. Recently the breeder got a wild hair and said she will not lift the limit on the registration on any of the pups from the litter because the combo of the bloodlines have genetic defects. So, I was crushed but accepted this. My pup is only 11 months. I also just happen to see on her website yesterday that she is planning a repeat breeding of the same 2 dogs with full guarantee and taking deposits because it is such a spectacular breeding. This will be the 3rd litter from these 2 dogs. What rights do I have for my paperwork? Any suggestions? I do have a contract. I am just lost.
by Red Sable on 12 March 2011 - 02:03
What were the genetic defects?What does your contract say?
by faq2 on 12 March 2011 - 02:03
just wondering what titles you have on your 11 month old pup?
by animules on 12 March 2011 - 02:03
Did you buy her on a limited registration? What does your contract say?
by eichenluft on 12 March 2011 - 05:03
what are the stipulations for lifting the limited registration on your contract? I sell puppies on limited, and my stipulations are the "normal" requirements of working title and passing hip/elbow rating - neither of which you could get on an 11 month old pup.
I would make sure you are complying with the contractual requirements, then communicate with the breeder. Request the full registration if you have complied with the requirements stipulated in the contract. If she refuses, contact AKC case management dept. and ask them for their advice, continue contact/communications with the breeder and try to convince her it would be in her best interest to honor the signed contract - much easier than dealing with akc and/or legal action.
molly
I would make sure you are complying with the contractual requirements, then communicate with the breeder. Request the full registration if you have complied with the requirements stipulated in the contract. If she refuses, contact AKC case management dept. and ask them for their advice, continue contact/communications with the breeder and try to convince her it would be in her best interest to honor the signed contract - much easier than dealing with akc and/or legal action.
molly
by Rik on 12 March 2011 - 15:03
a question to buyers, not breeders. I understand from the perspective of a breeder for offering limited registration.
But from the perspective of a buyer, what is it that induces one to accept limited registration on a pup. Reduced price? I would really be interested in hearing about this from the buyers point of view.
As for me, I would never consider buying a dog with restrictions, other than the normal ones that would void the guarantee. When I exchange cash for a dog, I consider my contribution to be just as valuable as what I am receiving in return.
Rik
But from the perspective of a buyer, what is it that induces one to accept limited registration on a pup. Reduced price? I would really be interested in hearing about this from the buyers point of view.
As for me, I would never consider buying a dog with restrictions, other than the normal ones that would void the guarantee. When I exchange cash for a dog, I consider my contribution to be just as valuable as what I am receiving in return.
Rik
by Bob McKown on 12 March 2011 - 16:03
I bought my Fiest Van Meerhout at 8 weeks old and with limited reg,s no reduction in price with the stipulations of release to full once she has a performance title and a OFA passing rating. I have a contract that stipulates so, I own her could still breed her but just can,t register the litter which I won,t til I have the release. It,s not a scarry or bad deal it keeps me to my original aggreement for the purpose that I bought the dog for.
People work hard on making there kennel name and lines good working lines and to a standard it,s a good idea.
I,ve even seen dogs sold with limited regs and at 2years of age and with a passing OFA and a extra charge can get the full registration. It,s all between the breeder and buyer.
If I breed my Fiest I will probably do it with input from her breeder. I,m sure Molly and everyone else who sells working dogs appreciates the buyer taking there advise when choosing a breeding partner, I guess it depends on the relationship with the breeder and the trust there in. Which also helps assure when buying on limited regs.
People work hard on making there kennel name and lines good working lines and to a standard it,s a good idea.
I,ve even seen dogs sold with limited regs and at 2years of age and with a passing OFA and a extra charge can get the full registration. It,s all between the breeder and buyer.
If I breed my Fiest I will probably do it with input from her breeder. I,m sure Molly and everyone else who sells working dogs appreciates the buyer taking there advise when choosing a breeding partner, I guess it depends on the relationship with the breeder and the trust there in. Which also helps assure when buying on limited regs.
by Kelly M Shaw on 12 March 2011 - 16:03
We have always sold all of our puppies on a limited. To us, this is what we can do to try and protect that puppy from being bred before it's time, not having the hips, etc done, as well as protecting our name. We have always lifted the limited and put a full registration on the dog if it's desired at our cost when the requirements are met. This is however the last litter that we will pay for the limited to be transferred over to a full. It is a $35 cost (per puppy) through AKC to get this done. We've never had any kind of problems doing this. We are very careful on where All our puppies go, so this is another way we can try to protect them from being a breeding machine before the requirements are met.
Kelly S
Kelly S
by Hundguy on 12 March 2011 - 17:03
Nice dog Bob, I really like her motherline..!
Dennis
Dennis
by Ryanhaus on 12 March 2011 - 17:03
Every dog is a unique individual,
see if the breeder will change her mind if you do all the appropriate health screens on her,
the proof is in the pudding!
see if the breeder will change her mind if you do all the appropriate health screens on her,
the proof is in the pudding!
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