Cost of training/titling in Germany - Page 1

Hello all, I am wondering if anyone can give me some input on the cost of sending a dog to Germany for Sch training and titling and if there are any REPUTABLE trainers who accept dogs based outside of Germany? Also , what is a reasonable price? Thanks all!! Cheers!

Hello dshlerner, from what I hear from a reputable trainer the cost for a schH 1 and korung can be around $1500 to $2,00 Euros and a schH2 is around $1200 to $1,500 euros. The kennel name is Von Mirzslot. You can speak to a Ron. Their web address is www.mirzslot.com. Good luck

If you think of it, it doesnt work out that expensive when you realise what you are getting from it

dshlerner, What is your email?

crocop, If you are going to send DSHlerner a list can you send some to me as well? I am also looking for a trainer.

dshlerner- also try Angelika Landers at Zwinger von Godinghofer Weg. Trainer EXTRAORDINAIRE, and very reasonable. She is also very fluent in English. www.godinghofer.com

How about our very own local Sch trainers here in America? Any recommendations? Any insight on advantages in sending to Germany vs that here in America? Thanks. Roger.

Beware of hidden cost. Many trainers charge for a SchH1-3 but every little bit will be charged extra, such as monthly kennelling, food cost, travel cost to and from events, entry fees, etc. Often they also charge extra for the BH, the AD, the show, the KKL. So be check what the final cost will be. If they charge monthly boarding fees and estimate that the dog will need 6 months it can quickly add up. Especially if the dog is then not ready at that time. If the dogs keeps earning money every month it lessens the urgency to get the dog finished for you. Also, inquire about training and experience. Many trainers work with a one methods fits all approach, but that does not work for all dogs. We have an excellent training facility and we charge a package price, no hidden fees. The only additional charges may be vet costs which are charged at cost (ie vaccinations, in case of injury or sickness, so far - knock on wood never had a need for that. Also SV HD/ED certification & DNA - if that has not been done already), and the cost of getting the dog a SZ number and KKL which the SV always bills to the owner directly. Our trainers are also breeders, helpers, active competitors that compete at LGA level with ambitions for more, and also work with different breeds, and of course show lines and working lines. Every dog gets worked several times a day in short intervals, which lessens overall training time and gets a dog finished faster. Each dog is trained at its individual ability and pace and with the method that each dog responds to best. If a trainer just says, put the dog on a plane without inquiring about the dog further, beware. Your dog may not be able to get titled and then all this effort and expense was for nothing. Before you ship a dog to us we discuss with you beforehand when the best time is to send the dog, in terms of age, maturity, what has already been done with the dog, the German trialing/KKL schedule, if the dog is HD/ED certified or at least prescreened, and if it is worth to send the dog. If the dog seems to be lacking the ability to get finished to a title, it makes no sense to send it to begin with. The title a dog earns with us IS earned. NO paper titles! But we have worked with several dogs that others had already given up on and they did get their titles with us. In Germany it is easy to drive up and try out for a few weeks if we can get a weak or previously messed up dog finished. If you send a dog from overseas though, its still best to discuss the dog beforehand to make sure all that expense (especially shipping etc) is spent wisely. Feedback from people that have received dogs trained by us has always been good, and that our prices are rather reasonable as well. Contact me privately for details.

Roger, the most obvious advantage is availability of abundant shows, trials and KKLs in Germany vs the US. You do not have to wait months inbetween trials and shows, and aim for that one or two KKLs in your region per year that the US has. And the abundance of training facilities, clubs, helpers, trainers, etc. If you run into a snag with a dog, you can drive a bit and meet up with someone that can help you in a particular situation if need be. From the feedback I have been getting people do not pay more when sending the dog to Germany as if they use a US based trainer. But US based trainers are usually limited to the few SV related events held in their neighborhood. If the dog is not quite ready at event Nr.1, event Nr.2 may not be for another few months and that will surely lengthen the time needed to finish a dog. Our trainers for example, are at a trial or show or KKL almost every weekend from March to October. We do not have to wait for the next event that comes to the area, we can go to any of the many events within a reasonable radius. So if a dog is not ready this time, he may be in two weeks time and then we just take it to whatever event is available then.

Can you e mail me privately, at vivencio@pol.net Any references? Roger T.