Any AKC Breed Champions with SchH Titles? - Page 1

This is a scary question to pose. I am not looking for the critics of AKC to respond here or to provoke a question that winds up in an argument. I know there have been AKC Breed Champions in the past that had SchH titles. But is anyone aware of any current Breed Champions alive today that also have SchH titles? I am curious to know if these happen to be German dogs that have also obtained an AKC Breed Championship. I also wonder how many are out there. If anyone has information, thanks. Or even websites which might help me further. . . any information is appreciated. Sunshine

Geez sunny,good question,I don't think the AKC even aknowledges German working titles

http://www.darby-dan.com/jimv.htm

Charlie, I think you can have the SchH titles registered on your dog with AKC. I don't know if these titles have to be made with the GSDCA-WDA. I thought I read this on the WDA site. It is just called something different. I'm on the board of a small GSDC primarily involved in AKC obedience and this past year there was something called a "Regional Challenge" where points were given to clubs based also on the achievement of SchH titles as well as show titles from German style conformation shows. The Regional Challenge seems to be a contiuing program. Back to the titled Champions. Thanks Wolf. Any more? Sunny

2X VA GSDCA/WDA 1999 Vize Sieger Canadian Select American/Canadian Champion Jim vom Fiemereck "Jim" is owned by AKC judge Dan Smith who was also the president of the German Shepherd Dog Club of America. Jim has sired 6 AKC champions to date. Check out their site www.Darby-Dan.com It helps being an AKC judge with a German dog! Politics!

Do you mean a dog like 1999 North American Vize Sieger Canadian Select, AKC CH, 2x VA Jim vom Fiemereck ROM SchH3 KKL 1a Life OFA GS-51055G24M-T & EL7877-T He was an import that was then shown AKC. He is the first imported AKC ROM in nearly 40 years. There are others that have done well too. He is just one that I remember offhand. More info on him at http://www.darby-dan.com/jimv.htm and on here at http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/19661.html On here he needs a serious pedigree update, don't you think? Lots of missing stuff on him.

Wow, 5 people posted replies at the same exact time? 03December2004 - 02:12 I wasn't beating the drum that looks like it was beat over and over about Jim. I doubt anyone was. It is very interesting all 5 replies got posted at the same exact time on here, makes it a little hard to follow. Same information different posters, at the same time. Kinda weird, dont you think? Oh well, stranger things have happened!

Jim is a Sch III, KKL 1 and so is an another American Champion owned by Morton Goldfarb, V1 Esko von West-Germanien KKL1. Dan and Morton are both AKC licensed judges. I have seen Jim up front and personal, a nice dog, lovely temperament. He attained his Sch titles in Germany, to the best of my knowledge, none were earned in the US. Last I heard from Smith, Jim was on track to be the first import in many years to earn his GSDCA ROM (for producing AKC champions).That was months ago, maybe he has earned it now. Some AM line breeders use him, some will not. Just like the SV people, some appreciate Jim's potential, some don't only because of his pedigree, not the dog. I've seen several of Jim's offspring and IMO they are very nice dogs, all from AKC line bitches.

BTW, I don't have a website for Goldfarb. Smith's has already been listed in this thread. Charlie is right, AKC does not acknowledge Sch titles currently, but I understand that is subject to change in the near future as far as their being tacked on to the end of the dog's registered name. No sure if AKC will ever sanction Sch trials.

As for American bred AKC Breed Champions with Schutzhund titles, How about Dyan Merkel's dog which she is the breeder of and is the only full American bloodline female German Shepher Dog in the history of U.S. (American bred) German Shepherd Dogs to become an AKC Champion with a Schutzhund title Ch Merkel's Opium CD, SchH1 More information about Dyan and her dogs can be found at http://www.dallaspets.com/ABOUT.htm