The Beauceron from Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show 08 - Page 1

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Brittany

by Brittany on 15 July 2008 - 22:07

Look at the nerve on this dog, Arco, the Beauceron .. Some champion huh??!?!

Why the hell would the judge permit this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSmCMDsSu4

 


by gsdlvr2 on 15 July 2008 - 22:07

 Why would the judge permit what?


Brittany

by Brittany on 15 July 2008 - 23:07

From allowing this dog to continue to show when the dog is essentally having a mental breakdown in the ring.

I would never go near a fearful dog and approched it the way this judge did. I'm surprised that the dog didn't bite the judge out of fear.


by gsdlvr2 on 15 July 2008 - 23:07

 ok, but, what did you see that suggested fear or mental breakdown?


by beepy on 15 July 2008 - 23:07

I hope you are referring to the blatently unsound temperment of the first dog - it not only wants to have a go at the judge but the owen has to use her hand to muzzle it - the judge should have removed it from the class.


by Get A Real Dog on 15 July 2008 - 23:07

Didn't you know that every dog that doesn't like judge looking in it's mouth or sticking his finger up it's butt is a nerve-bag?


by Blitzen on 15 July 2008 - 23:07

The judge could have DQ'd or excused that dog from the ring. Instead he opted to give him another chance. Most judges do not do that at AKC shows and would have either DQ'd or excused the dog. If it weren't Westminster I suspect the handler would have been asked to leave the ring with the dog.


Mystere

by Mystere on 15 July 2008 - 23:07

I have seen the same thing in the AKC ring with gsds...and they were not DQ'd or excused, either!   It wasn't that big a deal.


by Blitzen on 15 July 2008 - 23:07

Beepy you will see many AKC handlers hold the dog's muzzle when the judge is examining it. In fact, some judges will request that. In this case, the handler was trying to prevent the dog from having at the judge again, but there are times when you will see that even if the dog is very trustworthy.


by beepy on 15 July 2008 - 23:07

Im sorry but anyone reading dog body language could see that dog was blatently upset - the tail tucked up underneath it is an obvious sign.

Here in the UK I have never seen a dog muzzled by its owner for a judge to go over it - and I think it shows what bad temperments there are out there if it is a regular occurrence.  However in this instance the handler didnt do it until the dog had show its unsoundness of temperment.

If any dog is likely to go at the judge it is not a good example of the breed and should not be shown.  I am sick and tired of people excusing bad temperments and then going on to get tickets and then breed from them - it only continues lines of bad temperments, something that the breed does not need and should not tolerate.  It is time for people to stop excusing and start to kick them out.  I have seen judges mark dogs down due to its inability to tolerate the "hands on" part of the assessment and it is something that should be promoted.  What happens when a member of the public is bitten does the owner say "oh but its a show winner"????






 


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