Rule Changes - Page 1

Rule Changes…there seem to be plenty of judging changes coming at your next trial.

Why the judges want to spring them on us on trial day is unbelievable.  It is the DOJs responsibility to keep the members informed and not hide behind apprentice judges.

When you get the new magazine the report from the August 3^rd judges college written by an apprentice judge was well written but did not mention the new process for checking in at tracking. This meeting cost the members $20,000. There was no educational value to our members for this meeting.

There is also a report from the FCI working Judge’s meeting. If you study this document you will find that the basic position at the end of the field for all SchH levels is parallel to blind #1. Also stated by USA Judge Ann Marie Chaffin, “We were able to gather the latest information on proper helper work, judging protocols and rule changes”    This meeting cost the members $5,000 including travel for an AWDF Board Member.

$25,000, our Sponsorship Income, and what kind of educational information do our members  benefit?  Zero, Zip,  Nadda.  

Has any trainer had a chance to go through the 100 page revised rule insert and compare for changes?

What’s the big secret Mr. DOJ and why aren’t you doing your job? 

Diane Madigan

Diane wrote: "Has any trainer had a chance to go through the 100 page revised rule insert and compare for changes?"

Yes.  Also told all my club members to make sure they order the rule changes and read them, pointed out the changes plus got clarification on the asinine change to the start of tracks. 

Lisa

Diane,

I don't understand your complaint.  If the rule inserts are available why do you need the DOJ to explain them to you?  It should be the club members or there training director's job to share the rule changes. 

I would think if you have all the info on the cost of the above meetings surely you would be aware or have access to a few rule changes. 

Also I don't understand why a USA member would put this on a public forum and not write a letter to USA.  Seems very immature.

Brad

Brad,

The rule changes are not listed, they are hidden.  The last thing anyone showing a dog on trial day wants to hear is..."THE NEXT TIME YOU SHOW" you show you need to report in for tracking with the leash over here, under there, or up the dogs *#@!!.  "But today, I take no points".  It sets the tone of an overpowering situation between the judge and the handler.  Ahhh Haaa you can't win because only I know the rules.

By the way, this change is not listed in the new revised rules. It states. "The dog must be taken calmly to the track."

A public forum is exactly where this should be viewed.  Rule Changes are for ALL trial participants.

Diane Madigan

Brad,

The new rules do not state that for the long bite you are parallel to blind #1. "It states that the handler and his dog are sent to the center of the training field."  This could mean even with Blind #3.  So you tell me, where is a member to find this information about secret handshakes and rule changes? Our members put thousands of hours into training for one title they should feel confident on trial day that at least they know the rules for showing.

Diane Madigan

Why don't you explain the rule change.  I don't understand what your talking about.  Are you talking about the tracking line?

I think it would better if you explained what happened at the trial and let others know about what the judge said instead of going off on the DOJ's and cost of meetings.

This is about meetings that were attended by our judges paid for by the membership, changes that affect each event and  money used by  judges to attend meetings without giving full reports . It is also about responosibility and meeting responsibilities as an elected officer. Our membership dollars should be much better spent.

Out to track.

I have always used blind 1, and have not seen at a trial or video of BSP or WUSV anyone doing anything else.  If a clubmember has logged thousands of hours working there dog and traveling to shows and other clubs they would know this.  I don't believe the secret handshake etc.  I think it is a matter of communicating the rule changes in a better way to make it easier to understand, but it is more than one persons responsibility it is the whole organization including you and me to pass the info along.

If there are rule changes, they should be clearly stated.  Placing changes within a new 100 page document to be compared and contrasts with the document it replaces is ignorant.  There should be a cover page that points to where changes have been made.  This is merely being detail oriented and making the issue clear and concise.

Why did UScA pay for an AWDF member to attend a meeting?

Kyle

It is a matter of common sense in the business  and organizational world that, when "rule" or procedural changes are made, ALL people affected are informed by any and every way possible.  It is not helpful for people who are inexperienced in the first place to find out on trial day that what they did was not correct.

Further, rule changes should be summarized and placed on-line on the web site and in the magazine months BEFORE they take effect. This means someone who can clearly communicate those rule changes in English, should be writing the summary. One of the saddest parts of this entire organization is how few of those in official positions can write a complete and clear sentence. The organization continues to shoot itself in the foot.