SV to Reinstate Long Coats in 2010 - Page 1

I recently learned from a Schutzhund Judge that the SV on a recent delegate day has voted to allow long coated GSDs back into the Zuchtbuch--stud book, and to be allowed to be shown at all shows including the Sieger Show.

Has anyone else heard this? In view of a recent thread on long coats, this would be a very interesting development.

Indeed. It would lessen the snarkiness on dogs simply because of their coat-length.

Until 1915, both longhaired and wire-haired varieties were exhibited. Today, in most countries, only the short coat German Shepherd is recognized for show purposes.

OK, so it was acceptable at one point.  They should, while they're at it, write in allowance for weak nerves, since that's getting to be popular as well.  Oh, and for oversize too.  Personally, I guess I don't care if the breed allows for long coats or not, as long as they're measured by the same standard in "the work".  Then, that may never happen either.

I will believe it when I see it!

Yes, there have been rumours about the SV thinking of bringing the longcoats back as a "variety". So far, it has always been voted down. Currently, there is a study group in the SV with SV judge H-P Rieker heading it. They are working on details, including FCI permission (remember the standards would need to be changed). Once that is done, it is supposed to go to the delegates meeting for a vote. If it is voted down there, regulations prohibit it from putting it back on the agenda for 4 years. So, it will all depend on the delegates meeting on May 31 and June 01.

Darylehret

I guess you are not putting Long Coats in the same vein as having weak nerves, your reply is not over clear on that, Plus Are you Guys talikng about Showlines or Working Lines or Both

It seems some people not saying the posters above do, treat the Long Coats as if they have a diease or something

For sure being a long coat has no bearing on the Dogs ability to work in Schutzhund,

The only thing which goes against them there on a muddy wet day is the time it takes to get them cleaned up Sometimes they look as if they have 'been pulled through a hedge backwards.' That is an English saying or Phase

Steve

I'm with Videx...I wont count on the chickens until the eggs are hatched... and it was just before 1999  when the LONG STOCK were banned from being registered with S.V.  But according to standard they can be bred as long as the country they are registered ALLOWS it... They just need to specify how LONG... is the long-stock coat should be... How BIG ...is big...????

Nice to be back...   :)  Marci

ATARTHS,

nice to see that you just copied and pasted my post from a previous thread.

About the coats: There is a lot more going on than what meets the eye. If the SV can figure out how to change the standard without allowing dissident groups and organizations a foothold into the FCI and VDH, when and only when will they allow coats back. A wrong decision could cost a monopoly! We just have to wait and see!

Chris

I definetley dont see it as a problem...the GSD is the only 'working' Shepherd (Belgian, German and Dutch) that disqualifies the coat.

My LSC doesnt require anymore work than my SC or SC-Mix breed - and they do the same things - SchH, Herding, Rolling around in the mud....  I dont know about other LSCs...but my experience hasnt been any different between the two types of stock coats.

~Cate

Cate

As you say in SchH it matters not whether the dog is a Long Coat or short coat they perform just as well as each other

least ways they do over here in Belgium and Holland and Germany,  even if they do not in other parts of the world like the USA and Britain

As for Showing thats a different matter of which i know nothing about, Never had a Showline