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Shtal

by Shtal on 06 October 2013 - 05:10

Moons wrote: Another unproven theory that is incorrect and incomplete.
Maybe you should stick to Einstein........

If you ever come up with something besides theories, he said she said, and myth, let me know.



Just want to refresh your memory about another incorrect/incomplete thing about Big Bang; First law of thermodynamics, “Matter (and/or energy) cannot be created or destroyed” It can only be changed and formed; well if matter cannot be created or destroyed then I have a problem, because everything is made out of matter, you are made out of matter and I made out of matter, everything is made out of matter. Then we have a question to ask? Where did matter come from? ultimately there are two choices, either vk4 made it or it made itself - there is no other choice.

rtdmmcintyre

by rtdmmcintyre on 06 October 2013 - 08:10

Two Moons You and I may disagree on the subject matter.  But I was trying to agree with you that their whole approach and reasoning was completely flawed.  On the other hand I don't necessarily agree with what many would say are traditional beliefs.

 

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 06 October 2013 - 13:10

Shtal,
why are there only two choices?
Same for your first law, till proven otherwise.
This is why you'll never figure anything out, you don't know how to use your brain, instead your blindly riding on the minds of others.
Your resources are getting weaker and weaker with every lap around the circle.
Have you learned anything at all from your efforts?

VK4,
I left you out of this for a reason.
Not trying to be mysterious, but don't ask me why.


rtdmm,
You need an easier name to type.
Of course they are flawed, they are the Nine and they know it, they embarrass themselves and all of mankind.
They know no other way.

What is has always been, it will always be, the arrogance of man claiming answers is only temporary at best, a brief moment in time that will pass with his kind.
It is without an end, without a beginning, and there is life beyond our imagination as is the concept of infinity.
Everything is connected to everything else, it is one.
To claim gods, or one god, indicates mans limitations.


Discuss, do not preach.

Moons.




 

Shtal

by Shtal on 06 October 2013 - 13:10

Moons,

I could definitely see how you use your brains, don't even want to start that with you.

Good luck with your journey.

Shtal.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 06 October 2013 - 13:10

You can't......

Shtal

by Shtal on 06 October 2013 - 13:10

You rely on your reasoning and senses, and you can't be absolutely sure, you are flawed man, plus you can be wrong about everything what you know or believe.

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 06 October 2013 - 13:10

No,
everything I observe tells me I am right.
I have always seen what others do not.
It is a gift, and a curse that i did not ask for.

Where we differ is I trust me and not others and I do not rely on faith.
I do not have a need to prove anything.

You think life on Earth was created, I partially agree with you.
But that's about it.





 

Shtal

by Shtal on 06 October 2013 - 13:10

So why don't you believe in God?

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 06 October 2013 - 13:10

Because if there was a god I would not have to believe, I would know, along with every other being on this planet.

Besides,
man has been creating gods since time began to explain the things he doesn't understand, and to control others.

That is what's called a fact, a truth, history.

Shtal

by Shtal on 06 October 2013 - 13:10

So would you say that you don't have insufficient evidence to believe in God then?





 


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