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by Ceph on 12 May 2008 - 12:05
Hi - Newb here, with newb question -
I just sent in my membership paperwork plus an order form for a rule book. Is it going to be an updated rulebook or am I going to have to dig around for the addendum and write in alot of postscripts O.o I'd like to have the changes before I read the original, rather than after O.o Less confusing that way maybe O.o
~Cate
by KariM on 12 May 2008 - 15:05
Wow I need to read through these changes, I did not realize there was such a change to the disarm, what is this down all about?!?!? I have the new rules, but not had a chance to read them yet.
I am the Asst. RD for our region and I have asked our Regional Training Director to write up a memo of the rule changes and what the old rule was etc. He can clarify any questions that seem unclear before we then pass this along to all club training directors.
I know everyone should read their own rule books, but this is a good way to get the word out to clubs and ensure that we are all training to the new rules! Perhaps all regional training directors should do the same thing!
Kari
by lhczth on 12 May 2008 - 15:05
Diane wrote: "Another change that is hiding in the 100 page document is the callout from the H&B. NOW the command is "Fuss" "
Where did you read this? I have the rule book in front of me. "Call out of the Blind - On another signal from the judge, the handler calls his dog out with the command 'here fuss"/"come heel"" And in another location "Commands for the Call out: "Here Fuss"/"Come heel""
by Diatbda on 12 May 2008 - 16:05
Page 68 New Rules
Commands: (completion) "Fuss"/"Heel", "Platz/Down". I've heard from members that have competed that the command "Hier" is gone.
Having the Regional Training Directors or even the apprentice judges provide changes is a great idea. Maybe they could divide the document and put something together for all members? Kari, please forward me anything you receive.
Thanks. Diane
by cledford on 12 May 2008 - 17:05
I support Diane for posting this and thank her. This forum is frequently used for discussion regarding the UScA and this is a worthy topic, which is exactly why it was posted here. I have heard *nothing* but confusion, debate and disagreement over what the new rule changes mean, especially with regard to the tracking portion, since they came out. It is about as clear as mud to everyone I've discussed them with. What is wrong with straight forward, easy to comprehend rules? What about commentary periods BEFORE rules are adopted, to ensure they (or at least the verbiage or intent) makes sense? How about explanations as to WHY the changes were needed to begin with? That helps to educate people on what the changes seek to address.
My hat is off to the judges as I feel they get very little in the form of compensation for their efforts and, like being a helper, are often he first criticized when a dog doesn't do well. Furthermore, without them we would have no sport. That having been said, this is another sign that the organization has lost its way with regard to the membership. It has become an upside down pyramid supporting the few and agendas of even a fewer and is not responsive or supportive (on the same level) to the rank and file, yet we’re the ones who “pay the bills.” Without the income from the membership there would be n organization. It seems somewhere along the line the board has lost track of this. Re. the judges college, I don’t know anything about it, but $20k?!?!?!?! For what? That is a huge chunk of budget and one would assume that for that much we’d have clearly stated rules that don’t require asking people to explain them to you (rules “lawyers”) and instead “speak” (i.e can be interpreted for themselves by anyone with common sense…) and a summary of WHAT the rules changes were (before) and became (after). If the judges college didn’t produce this, I fault them less than the GB that allow the changes to go into effect without further clarification. -Calvinby lhczth on 12 May 2008 - 17:05
Go to page 69, new rules and read under Call out of the blind. It still says "here fuss"/"come heel" And I have heard from others that it has not changed. :)
You are right, we do need some clarification of the new rules so we don't go into trials blindly.
by Diatbda on 13 May 2008 - 11:05
In short.
The commands for the call-out are different between the two pages (68-69) the exercise is described. This is quite irritating because now you are getting into training not just showing. Wonder how many more screw-ups there are in the document?
Diane
by EliDog on 13 May 2008 - 11:05
It gets even better. While the USA is already enforcing change the actual rules they have not been fully implemented in Germany as of yet. If you trial in DVG here the changes have not been implemented yet.
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