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by duke1965 on 27 April 2018 - 08:04

looking at the videos only one thing comes to mind, normal training/shaping, nothing mindblowing or new going on there in both videos

furthermore would agree with Joan, for stopping fleeing suspect I would prefer little different type of dog than for personal protection, where normally a well balanced dog will do both without a problem

 


by ValK on 27 April 2018 - 20:04

duke1965 OP asked opinions on "bite training philosophy".

the trainer in video discusses issue, by his words "dog want to bite but don't feel itself comfortable doing it" and so on.
thus he talks and shows about utilization of some methods to improve dog's bite performance. that what was about
original question of OP.
legality of usage such dog's attack on object in moving vehicle and which parts of body the
dog should be allowed to bite, stirred up by others participants and has nothing to do with topic.

by duke1965 on 27 April 2018 - 22:04

yes valk, my answer to the op question is that the guy discusses normal training,conditioning/shaping, nothing we havent seen or heard before

Koots

by Koots on 27 April 2018 - 22:04

My take on the vid (bite behaviour one) is that this trainer had to correct the association the dog was having with the handler approaching it when on the bite. Seems like the problem was that the dog was forcibly outed every time the handler approached and therefore was stressed when handler came up. The trainer modified the dog's association with the handler approach, thereby reducing the stress the dog felt with the situation, enabling a calm grip and non-stressed out.   This also greatly improves the dog/handler relationship.


HerBazhen

by HerBazhen on 28 April 2018 - 00:04

Thank you Koots...
That is exactly what I was talking/asking about. Much of the training I see, the dog is choked out or forced off hard. I was just thinking his philosophy at changing that, was good. Like you said,reducing stress...better grip...more thinking dog. I would also think it would make for a more confident dog.

by duke1965 on 28 April 2018 - 05:04

many ways to teach out and also many different type of dogs to train, but if a dog has to much stress or looses grip after being choked out he might not be the right dog for the street.

draining a dogs energy to make it easyer to work is something even ceasar milan is doing for long timeWink Smile


BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 28 April 2018 - 08:04

 

 


Nothing very special IMO every high drive working dog (prey)GSD/Malinois.DS can do this with proper training


I,m more worried about the decoy , I waited that the dog will bite in his nuts  that dog came  very closely and thats not FUN at allShades Smile

 , that  dutchie has a quality time.

 

 


by joanro on 28 April 2018 - 11:04

Lol. Blackmal, I though the decoy was encouraging the dog to bite his nuts...looked like the dog had them one time...no reaction by the decoy, so I figured maybe he didn't have any. Lol





 


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