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by beetree on 24 January 2017 - 07:01

The only problem is what you say isn't true. An animal exercised on a treadmill can also be fit. You just have to look at the animal, in the end.

Too bad about your zoo wolves, we have some very fit healthy ones over here.


by vk4gsd on 24 January 2017 - 08:01

This entire thread is so educational right from the first post. can anyone best bronies tho?

Reliya

by Reliya on 24 January 2017 - 08:01

The internet is a crazy place. There's plenty of things worse than bronies.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 24 January 2017 - 08:01

Introducing treadmills to this debate @ this stage is very interesting,

but 'not cricket' !Teeth Smile

Surely counts as "other work put in to exercising them".


by beetree on 24 January 2017 - 14:01

Hate to bust your bubbles but the Bronie fad is kind of old.

What debate? What I say is right, what you say is wrong....without pictures!

yogidog

by yogidog on 24 January 2017 - 15:01

Mithuna I put pictures up on page7 to show condition of my dogs after you suggested I dont feed enough . Now where is yours.

susie

by susie on 24 January 2017 - 17:01

"Treadmills" - interesting point.

Although a lot of our show folks tend to show their dogs on a regular basis ( you will see them on a show almost every weekend ) most of them either don´t own a treadmill at all, or they barely make use of it ( maybe a small part of the actual training, if at all ).

I think a treadmill is more or less useless, it may be okay for overall endurance training, but WHY use it at all?

There is no socialisation on a treadmill, no pulling ( like it or not, a regularly pulling dog looks way different than a dog not used to pull ), no training in a group ( yes, training - obedience, proper behavior, getting used to stick in a bulk of strange dogs and strange people ), no learning of speed changes, no sudden explosion, no sudden stops, no leash signs, no interaction with the handler = the dog doesn´t get a feeling for the handler, and the handler doesn´t get a feeling for the dog, no rain, no slippery underground, no strange noises... I could go on and on.

A "treadmill" dog will always be the looser within a group of regularly trained dogs, be it show/sport or both.

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 24 January 2017 - 17:01

If the dog has high ball drive and you have acess to a grassy field and or hill, conditioning is a cake walk. Acess to a sandy berm or a dune adds nuanced variation.
If the dog has low ball drive then its way harder.

by beetree on 24 January 2017 - 18:01

Treadmills are generally used in fitness centers all over our country. The benefits cited often include less stress to the joints.

Athletes in different sports will have different musculatures, and yet they will still be deemed fit. Trying to suggest the jack of all trades dog the GSD is supposed to be, will have to fit one athletic form, basically to make that particular owner's lifestyle appear (more) correct is somewhat pointless.

If the animal is fit— as in toned muscles and endurance (cardio health) it really doesn't matter if he used a treadmill or chased a ball down a sandy berm.

We need to see Mithuna's dog in a picture at the end of the day to judge if it is fat, and test the animal in action to judge its stamina. That would be the total package.

The benefits of free range also include the mental health and stimulus of a thinking dog, creating unlimited opportunities to exercise discernment. I see that all the time. How could a five by five kennel do that?


susie

by susie on 24 January 2017 - 18:01

Bee, as soon as you are going to trial or show the dog, you will see the difference - you really should believe me in this case.

"Free range" sounds great, but at least in my country it´s no real choice -
and
"free range" in case of woods, or huge fenced areas, doesn´t help -
neither for socialisation nor for sport, show, or a real job.





 


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