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Bundishep

by Bundishep on 30 July 2015 - 20:07

cage, a very good read and a lot of info in the post,I have both types of ball drive dogs in my breeding stock some interested in mostly a active live ball and some interested in a dead- active- hid ball or otherwise, I know some trainers like to use two balls in hand when either playing or training,I can see why some over top ball drive dogs can create problems, but once again I think it goes back to what the dogs day job is, for thoughs that work in sport the high drivey ball driven dogs seem to have great sleeve bite drive also,when I saw Canto, Lisa did not have a ball around so I could see how he acts around it but she has some great pictures of him jumping high into a pool after an object,I didn't know of Canto,s half brother Dexter do you know of any vids of him on the internet to view or if one can be posted here

Bundishep

by Bundishep on 30 July 2015 - 21:07

As far as Hoky offspring goes I,ve heard very good things about them,did you say you considered Hoky a high ball drive dog,Mike Diel,s Hoky son Irmus has done very well in sport,but I,ve never seen Irmus,s ball drive ether,I wanted to breed a female to Irmus but he is so far away I thought Canto would be the next best thing since he is in Las Vegas and much closer to me and I like what I hear about what your Hessy female produced being Canto,s dam and the Hoky son called Rush is still off breeding in Europe the last time I heard from Tony his owner.

Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 31 July 2015 - 16:07

Gah, you can't quote anymore with this new version. .

As for self preservation and survival....

High drive doesn't necessarily mean a dog will jump into his death. I had a female that had by far less drive than a lot of dogs, yet she was very obsessive, possessive, hunt drive out the wazoo and she had zero self presrvation. She jumped off a building during a training search to take a short cut, indicate and then went straight back in for the reward. I have it on video, it's on youtube.

I've seen dogs with much higher drive than her that would have never jumped.


Bundishep

by Bundishep on 31 July 2015 - 20:07

I think most high ball drive dogs are smart enough not to go over cliff to get injured when trying to get a ball or a stick but I cant speak for every dog out there. I,ve seen some go both on water and under water to get an object that they are after,the dogs that dock drive over long distances are normally worked up to it slowly and they learn fast that a water landing is a dogs friend and soft to land in.

yogidog

by yogidog on 31 July 2015 - 20:07

I sold a dog at 8 weeks to what I know now to b a fool. He and the dog was Walking across a bridge from the park dog off lead of corse. dog spotted someone playing football jump off the bridge for the ball at least 18 foot on to a main road that dog was medium drive as I know because I took him back. so any drive can take over a dogs head if you have a lack of control .

by gsdstudent on 31 July 2015 - 20:07

Darwin! If the pack does not take care of their offspring they are out of the gene pool. Could be the most gifted youngster ever but a dim bulb parent will cause it problems.

yogidog

by yogidog on 02 August 2015 - 10:08

Gsd what u have said is through. But that also aplys to the new owner or handler. If handler is thick as a plank it will reflect the dog.





 


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