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This has to be a mistake by Shtal on 12 May 2012 - 17:05 |
| I accidentally found this pedigree - but I think it is an error to see white GSD. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=633009 |
Shtal by FerrumGSDs on 12 May 2012 - 17:26 |
| very likely a joke, the shape of the dog looks nothing like the parents |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 17:44 |
| Why would you think it is a joke. Look back in the pedigree...what do you find??????? A very suspicious pedigree with no background traces.. dogs with no kk and an incomplete list of ancesters. It is not unusual for a white recessive gene to be brought into play in dogs that have close breedings..SOMEWHERE a very close breeding shoved it forward. MANY white pups are born in litters and destroyed the minute they are born and we know nothing about it, except the tales that come out of Germany later or even here in the usa NO it is not a joke. Shtal explain to me where do you think white shepherds come from?? YR |
yellowrose of Texas by Elkoorr on 12 May 2012 - 17:48 |
| the pictures are stolen from somewhere else |
Elkoorr by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 17:57 |
| Maybe so , but not a surprise to see a white born to any black /tan shepherd. White throw back recessive Unless someone claims it as a fraud I am not surprised at all. White german shepherds come from sister /brother breedings all over the world. Unless you do a dna on that white dog, no one will ever know for sure. winxpman is the person who submitted the dog so maybe that person should come on and explain his pedigree and if he has some evidence to prove it.??? anyone know this person from 2009 ? |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 18:07 |
| Where is the rest of where UNCLE BUCK has been ?????? http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=632997? Yr http://www.aboutgermanshepherddog.com/white-german-shepherd-history |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 18:18 |
| For the German Shepherd puppies to be white it is essential that both the dam and sire have to carry white recessive gene aLLl though it is not necessary that the parents have to be white. To put this in simpler way, the non-white German shepherd dam and sire can be capable to produce white German Shepherd puppies, if they are the carriers of white recessive gene. Since this particular gene is recessive it can skip off generations – not showing up for several generations. |
by Sunsilver on 12 May 2012 - 18:54 |
| Dogs that carry the white recessive often are black and silver or black and cream. If you check the colour of the non-German line dogs in the pedigree, you will find one that's listed as black and silver and another that's black and cream. To find the colour, you have to click on 'Change pedigree". |
Sunsilver by Ramage on 12 May 2012 - 19:14 |
| I agree. The bottom side's pics are all stolen and do not represent the actual dogs named. Someone had a lot of fun picking and choosing german SL pics for the Am bred dogs on that pedigree. |
Ramage by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 19:15 |
| Thank you sunsilver a computer thing I did not know Me a dummy about computer tricks...I have dial up anyway so I am very limited on time outing I will try what you said and see what I get. Yes, pedigrees have to be studied and most of the time we are not privy to ALL the FACTS YR |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 19:34 |
| Thank you sunsilver a computer thing I did not know Me a dummy about computer tricks...I have dial up anyway so I am very limited on time outing I will try what you said and see what I get. Yes, pedigrees have to be studied and most of the time we are not privy to ALL the FACTS Ok I told you it was UNCLE BUCKS Fault...lol yes,,,,UNCLE BUCKS parents were http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/register.modify?hund=632995 Black and Silver bred to a BLK and Cream....... http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/register.modify?hund=632996 |
by Sunsilver on 12 May 2012 - 19:36 |
| I just clicked on the link for Uncle Buck, and WOW! That's a nice assortment of hardware he's (supposedly) won! I wonder who he REALLY is?? LOL! Anyone recognized the dog in that photo? |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 19:42 |
| If I had a computer knowledge and the right hardware and some computer brain,,I could enlarge it and maybe read the names Maybe some show older people will know >>>>I was surprised too...but I knew THE BUCK stopped there.. lol YR Thanks for the tip I also was shocked this week to LEARN that SG Lord vom Gleisdreieckis A SABLE NOT A BLK /REDHE is the grand sire of my stud Dieter and all these years I have pics and they looked blk/red Mahon called me and said his original pedigree says GREY sO NOW I just went and clicked on update pedigree and read he is submitted as SABLE>> HOW neat...I learned something new today... Thanks SUNSILVER... |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 19:44 |
| BUT THAT DINO DID COME FROM uncle BUCK...THAT IS A GIVEN. Dino has an AKC litter number BUT the PIC of UNCLE BUCK may not be UNCLE BUCK>>> lol Yr |
by FerrumGSDs on 12 May 2012 - 20:40 |
| Hi Sunsilver :-) Well, starting with "uncle buck," who wants to verify the whole pedigree is fabricated? Then it gets deleted? By now I'm sure you need a bunch of roman numerals after a name like that with an AKC number. |
by Shtal on 12 May 2012 - 20:49 |
I found this pedigree on ebay and the dog Sloveks Lady Brynne is how I got connection to white GSD. |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 21:17 |
sHTAL : MOVE THE PEDIGREE OVER TO UNCLE BUCK AND LOOK AT THE AKC NUMBER..IS IT THE SAME NUMBER AS ON THE DATABASE. NOT SHOWING IN YOUR SCREEN SHOT. I copied off db DL 03389423 Does that match the akc number on the certificate you screen shot? I get dizzy trying to see such small numbers.?? Shtal can you verify? Yr |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 21:53 |
| On our database is shows DINO has two litter mates and the akc numbers are in same litter and follow in number pattern and having come out of same sire....and lead back to UNCLE BUCK.. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=633002&p=progeny Yr |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 21:57 |
| On our database is shows DINO has two litter mates and the akc numbers are in same litter and follow in number pattern and having come out of same sire....and lead back to UNCLE BUCK.. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=633002&p=progeny Notice there is a third litter mate having same litter number ending in the o6 with a different name picture is blk/tan SAME info comes up if you put Ramo VI in and the 2 progheny come up minus the third one..which ends in 06 not included on this page http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=633008&p=progeny same person owns all these dogs. |
by yellowrose of Texas on 12 May 2012 - 22:34 | |||
FOUND THE LIE BIG TIME http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=734893 DN/22143606 SAME LITTER NUMBER ENDING IN O6 LOOK AT THIS PEDIGREE OF DOG NUMBER AKC SAME LITTER NUMBER AS DINO II , SAME DAD AND MOM BUT LOOK AT THIS PEDIGREE OF THIS NUMBER O6 DOG OF THIS LITTER AND TELL ME WHY THE PEDIGREE OF THE SIRE.... RAMO VI is different very different dino II has same ramo vi and it is totally different on the dam pedigree. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=633009 SAYS RAMO VI 'S DAM IS SOME DOG NAMED KELLY....HA HA HA SAYS RAMO VI 'S SIRE IS A DOG NAMED GUS Here is his pedigree that is on the db as such Real or fake? http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/search.html?main=db&index_in=All&results_in=25&string_in=RAMO+VI ah hah caught but still shows why DINO II is white..he has silver /blk and cream/blk parents but someone lied big time yes....FOUND IT FINALLY THREE DOGS ON DB LISTED IN SAME LITTER WITH SAME MOM AND DAD BUT THE PEDIGREES OF THE THIRD ONE IS NOT SAME...BUT IS LISTED AS DOG NUMBER 06 FROM SAME LITTER AS DINO II AND HIS SISTER....... GO LOOK SUNSILVER: TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE???? Dino II DN22143603 5 generations .::.
NOW look at the 3rd dog above same litter number ending in o6???? HOW do you have 3 dogs with same litter and out of same name but different dads name and moms names changed?????? NOTICE NO DATE OF BIRTH ON DINO II DINO AND SHADOW VLL LL HAVE FAKE pedigreeS ..... WOW this was a lot of work on my part with a computer that doesn't run faster than a snail Well , Shtal, you didn't quite know why it was a mistake because actually the dog did come from UNCLE BUCK...but the names are fake as to ramo VI BEING REAL . Stolen info for sure...NOW WHAT HAPPENS?? at least we have it all on this page and the owner if he deletes all the pedigrees we have it on here.. I do not know how to do screen shots of the pages so if he does delete it we have no copies...SHtal you can make copies of all the differences to save.. Do not know why you were interested but RUN from this one... GOOD LEsson FOR ALL OF US.. yr | |||
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