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yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 16 October 2007 - 01:10

No rimadyl     and raw would help    kinda slip some raw in and if you only have one dog raw is cheaper that kibble with burnt grass and sticks and stones in it....


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 16 October 2007 - 12:10

newbiegsdowner,

Please have x-rays done,as bravo mentioned, it could be
stemming from her shoulder or elbow, and sometimes a
dog will feel extra hot to the touch, my Mira feels like she's
heating up when I pat her head, she's just full of energy!

Xrays will rule out alot...............

Also, does your girl chase frisbees and balls,
does she play hard, cause it could even be a sprain,
that takes awhile to heal.


by Louise M. Penery on 16 October 2007 - 16:10

Xrays will rule out alot...............

Radiographic signs of pano do not always coincide with clinincal pano. I have found the easiest way to isolate the location of pano to by palpation.

Yes, trauma and rough play may initiate episodes of pano. Stress is another factor. For example, bitches may have pano around their seasons or after whelping. Pano does not always shift from leg to leg. I have seen it persist intermittently over the lives of several dogs (when I had American-bred bloodlines).

The single best treatment (combined with crate rest) I've found for pano is: PYCNOGENOL (a powerful antioxidant/anti-inflammatory derived from the bark of the maritime pine) given orally at 1 mg per pound of body weight 2-3 times daily as a "loading dose" for several days. Then, decrease the dose to once daily for a few days; next. treat every other day, etc. The important consideration is to continue treatment well beyond the cessation of pain/lameness.


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 16 October 2007 - 18:10

Louise,

I've been breeding dogs off & on, since 1980,

and I just haven't seen pano in my dogs first hand, 

I don't know, maybe I've been lucky, but I... would have had an x-ray done on MY dog,
would I have wasted my time, I don't know.

 


by newbiegsdowner on 16 October 2007 - 19:10

Everyone: -

Just to inform you we have our bitch booked in at our vets on monday for x rays (earliest they could get her in) So hopefully by monday evening we  will have a answer to what her limp actually is.

MIRASMOM: - yes she does play hard she is as mad as a hatter which is why the past couple of days i have restricted her to lead walks around garden as in the run she throws herself against the run walls etc etc. and she used to bounce of the walls in her run too before we crated her.

So fingers crossed for us that its nothing serious as she is such a good bitch would be a waste (but thats life hey?)

Thank You Again


animules

by animules on 16 October 2007 - 19:10

Our youngest had bouts of pano for a few months.  It's so hard to watch when they are hurting.  we used plain old buffered aspirin to take the edge off.   And the high drive types don't take slow down very well as babies either.   Good luck.


4pack

by 4pack on 16 October 2007 - 21:10

Louise, how long until you see a result with the PYCNOGENOL? I have been giving the Omegas, Glucosamine w/ginger/Bromelain and Green tea extract. Today I added the Pycno, Collagen and 1000mg vit C in ascorbic acid form. I'm hoping this will keep the inflamation in check for good.


by Louise M. Penery on 16 October 2007 - 21:10

Hey Ms 4pack,

I've seen the initial response to pycnogenol be within a matter of hours. IOW, a pup arrives at a show limping and receives a loading dose of pycnogenol and a second dose a couple hours later--then, goes in the ring and wins his class.


4pack

by 4pack on 16 October 2007 - 21:10

Cool, thanks.


by ginabean on 16 October 2007 - 22:10

For what it's worth, I've been told that kelp--either from the feed store (cheaper) or from a Whole Foods sorta place is extremely  helpful with the inflammation and that some breeders add it to dogfood preventively from puppyhood.   Louise--do you suppose the kelp has some pycnogenol-type anti inflammatory stuff in it as well?






 


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