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Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 13 July 2018 - 19:07

So let me get this straight, you had a male whose fear issues you would rank at 9-10 and you sold him as a stud?

yogidog

by yogidog on 13 July 2018 - 19:07

there's anything you can't stand or tolerate about a dog, don't breed to it, because behaviors are passed on....diggers will produce diggers, garbage gut will produce garbage gut ( dogs that eat stuff that isn't food like rocks and sticks and cloth), etc.

Excellent post Joan

by ValK on 13 July 2018 - 20:07

every dog should be allowed to be concerned or even to afraid of unknown, but at same time every dog has ability
to self learn from new experience.
so why do you searching for kind of quantum mechanic answer in simple dog's issue?
doesn't matter what can trigger frightened reaction - wind, trees, humans, another dog, big object, car etc. - dog didn't
learn to distinguish real threat from imaginary. it's says that dog has weak, unsound nervous system, that's all.

by GSCat on 13 July 2018 - 20:07

GSDguy08--
Call your breeder and ask if anything happened at any time, not just weeks 6-9. It might be something that seemed insignificant at the time, so nothing was said/done. It might have been so insignificant that your breeder doesn't remember/recall, too.
Try desensitization training. Don't overwhelm the dog, though. Little by little. Let his/her tolerance guide you.
It might be as simple as walks in the park where there are bushes and foliage, and various wind conditions. Or adding non-toxic houseplant(s) in unbreakable pots to your house and gradual exposure.
Or....

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 14 July 2018 - 00:07

Baerenfangs Erbe this was quite some time back; However many years ago. I don't know if I sold him as a "stud dog," though yes, the person who got him used him as a stud. A lot has changed since then, and sure, a lot of things I would do differently. People learn, people change. I bet you have changed and grown over the years too.

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 14 July 2018 - 00:07

ValK, just trying to understand, that's all. I'm sure you didn't always have the understanding you do now, eh? Thanks for your advice.

Jessejones

by Jessejones on 14 July 2018 - 01:07

Hexe posted earlier that it may be a vision issue.
This could very well be...

GSD‘s are often myopic when looking at things straight on , meaning they see things ok close to them, but farther away, less good and more blur.

A dog’s eyesight is about 6 times less good than ours, and they see a lot less colors than we do - but can see more movement.

If this is the case, anything further away from him, and that is casting shadows and movement in his blured vision range, might be what is spooking him. You mentioned in winter, if there are no leaves, there is a lot less play in light and shadow, that he is fine.

Maybe try covering one eye at a time and see if he follows things equally with each eye? Might give you a bit more info to solve this puzzle.


GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 14 July 2018 - 01:07

JesseJones I was describing this to a woman today that I know here, who, doesn't quite know much about dogs; But she does know a lot about vision problems (She has them quite badly); When I described it to her, the first thing that came to her mind was "vision problems." I can try what you mentioned; With that said however, silly question probably, but are there any vets that are able to tell if a dog has vision problems?

Jessejones

by Jessejones on 14 July 2018 - 01:07

GSDguy-
Yes, there are veterinary ophthalmologists here and there in the USA.
If you have one in your area, that would be a good idea.

I don‘t know what they can do though if it is a case of myopic vision.
But if it is cataracts in the beginning stages, which can be hereditary with young pups and young dogs, they can be removed, I think. But I‘m no eye expert. Maybe someone else knows more here.


TIG

by TIG on 14 July 2018 - 01:07

How old is this dog?

Please take Hexe's advice and get his eyes checked. The fact that's he's ok in the winter does not eliminate an eye problem- less shadows and different light could make sight easier in winter. There are at least two eye issues known in GSD. First pannus which has two types - the classic well known film that slowly grows over the eyes and can affect vision in different ways and at different stages and the second types which usually just show as a red eye around the rim as if the dog had worked too hard. secondly corneal dystrophy which creates small scratched like areas similar to a small cataract and which can affect vision depending on placement in eye.

I would however be concerned at the lack of resilence mentioned by another poster. That fact that he has not seemed to learn from experience does seem to suggest thin nerves.

BTW to Joanro re suggestion to get a Mali for environmental soundness???? Years Michael Ellis was doing a demonstration of some of the exercises/training they were doing with ring sport malis to desensitize them to environmental stimuli and even he agreed that with a good sound GSD the exercises were not necessary. Now the fact that the op either has bad luck in finding a good GSD or is choosing for traits that impedes what he really wants is a whole nother ball of wax but imho recommending a mali(if it moves bite) would not be a high order solution to whatever problem or problems he has.

I have not had this issue but I did have a GSD who had a hate relationship with plants. As a puppy she destroyed an 8ft dracaena (yes I know poisonous) in foot segments until the plant finally gave up and died ( was my sisters that my mom was caretaking). Later in life it was if plants talked to her and she didn't like what they were saying for example my mom had an orange tree in the corner of her yard and the yard had a concrete pathway around the edges that the dogs used to patrol. Brixi would go by the tree and be just beyond it and it was like the tree said the equivalent of son of a bitch or nah nahnah. She'd turn back and you could tell by body language - angry - grab leaves and branch and rip them right off the tree. Wish I knew what the heck that tree was saying :). Tho in fairness this was a very oral dog with lots of chewing and destructiveness as a puppy so it may just have been an extension of that behavior and since I thought the plant thing was funny it was tolerated.





 


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