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by GSDtravels on 21 December 2012 - 09:12
Evidence Shtal. Do you know what that is? Obviously not.
by Shtal on 21 December 2012 - 10:12
This is for GSDtravels,
lol, I am sorry but I had to turn my computer back to take a peak at this thread!
Here is the evidence, the word of God, and what is your evidence GSDtravels?
lol, I am sorry but I had to turn my computer back to take a peak at this thread!
Here is the evidence, the word of God, and what is your evidence GSDtravels?
by GSDtravels on 21 December 2012 - 10:12
Evidence Shtal, evidence.
by Shtal on 22 December 2012 - 01:12
GSDtravels,
This is pointless, Big Bang theory does not explain origin of time, space and matter; what exploded? Where did it come from? Where did the energy come from?
I am done here.
Shtal.
This is pointless, Big Bang theory does not explain origin of time, space and matter; what exploded? Where did it come from? Where did the energy come from?
I am done here.
Shtal.
by GSDtravels on 22 December 2012 - 03:12
What's your point? Evidence Shtal, evidence
by Shtal on 22 December 2012 - 03:12
What is your point in life?
Edit: LOL
Bye, bye!
by GSDguy08 on 22 December 2012 - 14:12
"Big Bang theory does not explain origin of time, space and matter; what exploded? Where did it come from? Where did the energy come from?"
GSDtravels, why can't you answer the question? Any time that question is asked to an atheist, typically they bout out the remark of "you need evidence, you can't prove your theory" towards the one who believes in God. The problem is, atheists can't prove by evidence the origin, where the energy or forces came from, etc. Because evolution is nothing more than the lies of humanistic teaching. I know what I believe, and what is true. The God of the scriptures predates all other Gods, so called religions, etc. And OT prophecy all being fulfilled, and that within itself is evidence. But I know that atheists think that it was all a book of fables.
1 Corinthians 1:18-27 For the word of the cross is to those who are perishing foolishness, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the cleverness of the clever I will set aside. " Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not god made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For indeed Jews ask for signs, and Greeks search for wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block, and to Gentiles foolishness, but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For consider your calling, brethren, that there were not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong.....
1 Corinthians 2:4-8,14-15
And my message and my preaching were not in persausive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God. Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom however, not of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom, which God predestined before the ages to our glory; the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no man.
GSDtravels, why can't you answer the question? Any time that question is asked to an atheist, typically they bout out the remark of "you need evidence, you can't prove your theory" towards the one who believes in God. The problem is, atheists can't prove by evidence the origin, where the energy or forces came from, etc. Because evolution is nothing more than the lies of humanistic teaching. I know what I believe, and what is true. The God of the scriptures predates all other Gods, so called religions, etc. And OT prophecy all being fulfilled, and that within itself is evidence. But I know that atheists think that it was all a book of fables.
1 Corinthians 1:18-27 For the word of the cross is to those who are perishing foolishness, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the cleverness of the clever I will set aside. " Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not god made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For indeed Jews ask for signs, and Greeks search for wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block, and to Gentiles foolishness, but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For consider your calling, brethren, that there were not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong.....
1 Corinthians 2:4-8,14-15
And my message and my preaching were not in persausive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God. Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom however, not of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom, which God predestined before the ages to our glory; the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no man.
by GSDtravels on 22 December 2012 - 15:12
GSDguy08, Scientists have never pretended to have all of the answers, there comes a point where they simply don't know. It may be discovered in the future and it may be that humanity will continue to search and will never know. If "We don't know" is the answer, that doesn't open the door for anything else, unless they have evidence. Science is saying, "We don't know until we can find evidence." So really, what is your point?
But once we reach the point of not knowing something, we can't just plug in the supernatural. Some may, and that's fine, but they cannot pass it off as "knowledge" until they have evidence. That's why the burden of proof is on the one making the claims.
Science has also never said that Leprechauns and Fairies don't exist, because they are unfalsifiable claims, the same as religion. Period.
And one more question for you GSDguy08, why is it that you call science Atheism? They are two totally different things. Science explains how the physical world works. Atheists are people who have looked at religion and found no reason to have faith for things, they prefer evidence. Science produces evidence, so it is one thing that some Atheists may use for determining what is truth.
You really need to look more into what it is, exactly, that you're talking about when you want to spout generalities.
But once we reach the point of not knowing something, we can't just plug in the supernatural. Some may, and that's fine, but they cannot pass it off as "knowledge" until they have evidence. That's why the burden of proof is on the one making the claims.
Science has also never said that Leprechauns and Fairies don't exist, because they are unfalsifiable claims, the same as religion. Period.
And one more question for you GSDguy08, why is it that you call science Atheism? They are two totally different things. Science explains how the physical world works. Atheists are people who have looked at religion and found no reason to have faith for things, they prefer evidence. Science produces evidence, so it is one thing that some Atheists may use for determining what is truth.
You really need to look more into what it is, exactly, that you're talking about when you want to spout generalities.
by Felloffher on 22 December 2012 - 18:12
Great video.
"First, forget about billions of years." LMAO.
"First, forget about billions of years." LMAO.
by Shtal on 22 December 2012 - 19:12
GSDguy08,
The second problem I see with Big Bang theory that I already said this before: Why are the some planets spinning backwards to others?
Law of conservation angular momentum says: You know if the spinning object breaks apart a friction less environment - everything spins the same way. You know we have Venus, Uranus and possibility Pluto spin backwards and at least six moons spins backwards and everything is tending toward to decay and Big Bang is exactly opposite of that.
Shtal
The second problem I see with Big Bang theory that I already said this before: Why are the some planets spinning backwards to others?
Law of conservation angular momentum says: You know if the spinning object breaks apart a friction less environment - everything spins the same way. You know we have Venus, Uranus and possibility Pluto spin backwards and at least six moons spins backwards and everything is tending toward to decay and Big Bang is exactly opposite of that.
Shtal
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