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by Ryanhaus on 09 May 2022 - 12:05

We have a stud that is a DM carrier, and we had someone wanting a potential stud dog, soooo....we had two males in the litter, we DM tested both and both were clear, so that was cool.

I think I did the test at 2 or 3 weeks, so we had the results back before they were ready to go.


by ajfloyd88 on 09 May 2022 - 23:05

There is no such thing as eliminating DM the test is a decent start but it in no way should determine what lines go on and what lines don't If you eliminate DM carriers you will be eliminating a good portion of the genetic pool we use to produce good sound working and/or show German shepherds. I am speaking of course on European lines because who would ever purchase American Lines. Or anything that has the least bit of American lineage in it. Your goal should be to stop all of the American lineage rather than get rid of all DM Carriers. I think responsible breeders do a great job of outcrossing DM carrier parents to a N/N mate. I think the ultimate goal is to not produces affected puppies. SOme of the most amazing dogs of the last 12 years have been carriers. Until the test for DM is more reliable I would really tell you simply be responsible. If you plan to bred you will have a lot more to worry about rather than DM hip/Elbow Dysplasia. Whether the testicles are descending on your males Allergies, Panosteitis, and the list goes on and on. DM carrier shouldn't be a deal breaker. I understand what you are thinking but you should probably research more.

by GSDHeritage on 10 May 2022 - 10:05

GSCat, was this dogs test OFA verified to be a DM carrier if tested by a USA lab to know for sure? 

https://www.pedigreedatabase.com/community.read?post=936188-testing-of-dogs-done-by-usa-labs-the-usa-ckc-foreign-bred-dogs-need-to-be-verified-by-ofa

 


by GSCat on 10 May 2022 - 17:05

Thanks for the responses.

I'm not the person in question.

No American lines in the pedigree. The individual understands the various issues. In any given responsibly bred litter with one carrier parent and one clear parent, statistically, there should be half N/N puppies, so if there is more than one suitable puppy available in the litter, wants to get one of the suitable ones that is N/N. Although temperament differences among the puppies in litters, there will be a lot of similarities, too, so not unlikely that if there is one suitable puppy in a given litter, there would be more than one suitable puppy in that litter. All carry genetic material of the parents/ancestors. The person is looking for many things other than just health when considering litters.

Don't know which lab did the test.

The person is just starting to look for and consider/select puppies to raise and train for certifications, demonstrations, education, and use as breeding stock. Not in a rush, since it would be a minimum of two years just for a puppy bought now to be old enough to do OFA and if no issues, then breed. Won't breed until the puppies also meet training and certification, etc., so more likely three or more years until first breeding. Wants to get things right from the get-go to minimize possible issues later. I advised the person to ask each of the breeders, from which a puppy is purchased, about mentoring reference breeding, whelping, etc. Already has a mentor on the service dog side.







 


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