Barking and Whinning in the Kennel Run - Page 2

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by vormund on 06 April 2004 - 16:04

She's 6 mos. Her parents are SCHl and many SCH2s & 3s in the family history. I have a great trainer who loves dogs and treats them very well. She's primarily in the house with our two other dogs. She's usually only a few feet away from me unless she can't be watched, then she has her special place in the kitchen where she can't get into trouble. The kennel is 24"x12", the house has fresh bedding. The outside has indoor outdoor carpet in their sitting area and green grass in the rest. It's only about 20 feet from our house so even when she out there, she's close by. She has alone time in the kennel and she is actually more quiet then when she is in there with our other shephard. She'll be 3yrs.in May. We have alot of wild life; rabbits, squirrels,chipmunks,birds and our neighbors pack of cats that roam freely hunting all the other animals. I'm thinking they're just excited about being in it after the long winter. I think they will adjust. Thanks for the advise. :)

by vormund on 06 April 2004 - 16:04

Correction!! The kennel is a bit bigger, It's 24'x12', not inches. I forgot to mention, my 3 yr old gets excited when she sees the atv and barks alot. She used to get her "fun time" with my husband as he would ride the atv and she would run along for exercise. She loved it. She has hip dysplasia now and to run like that hurts her so we don't let her do it. It's a hard thing to deal with, do we let her live and have fun and give her an asprin or do we just say no? She's a great dog otherwise. Have a great and love your dogs no matter what. :)

by DKiah on 06 April 2004 - 16:04

Sometimes they are just so excited and busy, they just can't help themselves!! She is just a baby and maybe some more inside time would be better, even crate time to get her used to being by herself... If there is a lot of stimulation, the bunnies, birds, atv's and other dogs barking.. she will join in. As for the 3 year old with bad hips, have you considered some of the NSAIDS available today?? They can provide great relief and can often be reduced to a very small dose and still help. She can still be active, of course there are side effects but I would trade some time to give my dogs a happier lief if being active is what they love!!

by vormund on 06 April 2004 - 21:04

DKiah, What is NSAIDS? I give her vitamins & glucosamine that seem to help. I put them both outside this morning and after a short while they both were basking in the sun. All quiet until a critter appears, they get excited, the critter leaves, all is quiet again. The pup is a lovable baby. She loves hugs and kisses. She gets plenty of time in the house. More time in then out. Her favorite place to cuddle is on my daughter's bed, or on the couch if no one is watching. I agree, it's nice to keep them happy, it makes us happy in return. :)

by The Axe Man on 07 April 2004 - 03:04

Vormund, I'm yet to meet a schutzhund trainer who's not great,just ask them.FIGJAM most of them.Most have trained jack,they talk the talk but don't walk the walk.If this schutzhund trainer is so good why are you asking here about training/behaviour problems? Let the dog sleep inside & the problem is solved. Forget the citro/bark collar at this age for a pseudo-work dog. Go to clickertraining.com then go into 8 ways to change behaviour then go to method 6 - Putting the behaviour on cue & method 8 - Change of motivation. These methods work,are dog & trainer friendly but do take a little time to work,hey nothings perfect except schutzhund trainers & their associations.Rgds "Axeing on schutzhund trainers"

by The Axe Man on 07 April 2004 - 07:04

Vormund, PS to above post - boot the dog off your daughters bed & the lounge & for god's sake find a trainer that can give you USEABLE & REALISTIC information & a structured training program.If you are doing as you say & allowing a 6mth old dog up on your daughters bed's for pats YOU NEED HELP. This is a HUGE NO & you want to do bite work......ummmmmm.Forget bitework, learn management & control skills.Piss the roaming cat's off as well as dog's do bark at vermin.I'm shaking my head as I write this as there's no way in the world someone with what would seem to be very limited understanding of basis principles of dogs wanting to do bite work.Maybe I should race F1 cars without the required skills?Love is totally irrelevant in the training of dogs.I assume you are American.Does anyone there know how to train dogs or is it just war on this & that with the odd bit of international kidnapping,outing elected foreign governments & terrorist acts against anyone else who dares be anything that isn't stars & stripes Bush arse lickers?

by M.Carter on 07 April 2004 - 09:04

Axman said: I assume you are American.Does anyone there know how to train dogs or is it just war on this & that LMFAO, Axe this is the most brilliant thing I've ever seen you write. I think you hit the nail on the head. For the first time in the worlds history, more people live in cities than on farms, which I think has had a direct negative effect on the vast majority of people not having a CLUE on how to raise~train dogs let alone know how to act around them. I'm shocked at how many people own dogs who lack common sense and can't teach basic manners or teach their children how to properly act around other people's dogs so they don't get BIT.

by DKiah on 07 April 2004 - 13:04

Vormund, NSAIDS - Non Steroidal Anti Inflammatory Drugs - 1st generation was Rimadyl, then came Etogesic and Deramaxx. There is a 4th generation, not sure how widely it is being used...For this I am referring to the dysplastic dog, and her comfort. They have been very effective in relieving discomfort of many kinds. My comment about the happy active quality of life referred to this dog, since there are some side effects to these drugs. But a reduced dose after the intitial 5 days or so, will more than likely work well. I have a friend with a lab with severe arthritis and it's helping her a great deal on a very small dose.. The glucosamine and chondroitin will surely not hurt but the others will let her be active. I have to agree with some of the other comments, your young puppy needs to get off the bed and learn to spend time in her crate..... a working dog is not a couch potato... and it sounds to me like in the kennel the 2 dogs are barking off each other, so big girl maybe needs a collar and little girl needs to stay in a while til she matures a bit. Get some bonding and housetraining done (I don't mean free run of the house, I mean time spent with whoever will work her and then back to her crate)..... just my opinion.. Just curious, M Carter... what is LMFAO, I can bve slow sometimes... LOL!

by Makosh on 10 April 2004 - 02:04

Don't keep your pup in the kennel - it might create a separation anxiety. She should be taught to stay there for a very short time at first. Try to spend as much time with your pup as possible, let her follow you around the house, or when you do your yard work. Otherwise she will bond with your 3 year old more than with you.

by Hucklebuck on 10 April 2004 - 16:04

OK. Dogs ARE smart enough to know when to bark and when not to. you can correct your dog to not bark athome, AND still have a crazy barking fool on the training field. I do it. So can you. The most important part, is teaching the bark command. I start as puppies. At feeding time, all puppies must "Geblaut" for thier food. Within 2 - 3 weeks they know the command. Thats step one. Now they know the command. This will be helpful, so the dog starts to associate barking WHEN YOU TELL IT TO. Please, you can use bark collars, or if you have time, use along line and park yourself in a lawn chair outside and correct the dog when you dont want her barking. This will NOT diminish her drive on the field. This will CHANNEL it where you want it. My dogs are not allowed to bark excessively at home. Only when strangers and the occasional squirrels come aorund. Other than that, they know that I do not tolerate it. But when they get on the field, that is THIER time to explode and have fun. And they love it. Good luck! Axe man, take some paxil.


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