Labrador Retriever > Pedigree query? (73 replies)

by Bonnie blue on 09 June 2009 - 16:10
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great topic

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by stickytoffee on 03 July 2009 - 10:25
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hi stickytoffee here again,

I spoke earlier in the thread.

Wow, great entry Steven! I so agree. My name is Lorna Hawkes i only live 10 minutes down the road from you funny enough in the village of Cliffe.

My chocolate Lab BUTTONS (purchased from Dominic) will be 2 tomorrow, happy birthday Buttons!!
 
As allready stated we are so pleased with her and her ability as a gun dog!

I actually spoke to Dominic on the phone last week and have arranged to  meet in a couple of weeks to have first pick on a litter of black labs. Again we wish to work this dog on a local shoot. Dominic has assured me this litter is prefect for the job and has promissed to give a demonstration of both the sire and dams ability to work as a gun dog.

From all the mindless petty entries on here i very much doubt many of you actually have much real knowledge of the hard work envolved to breed and rear labrador retrievers, being one of the most energetic child like but hard working intelegent breeds.

I have been brought up with labs and worked with them my whole life, so appriciate the work envolved. i just wish people wouldn't be so quick to put the boot in to a man who has clearly worked hard at building his business of breeding these beatifull dogs and bringing a lot of them on as gun dogs for himself . This man cares about his dogs!


LORNA HAWKES
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by samsson on 29 August 2009 - 00:03
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Who ever or whatever these people are ,they are not what you say they are any bad experiance is fron Dominic and the way he treats people who get sick dogs from them .sure good reports will come from buyer / Family (pretenting to be buyers) but as some have found out that this man turns ugly and threatens to sue anyone who posts bad feedback  or if you question the breed line and health of these dogs .  Single breeder for 30 years LOL google his mobile number and see how many adverts his number comes up with .


Stay Away from unliecienced breeders that are named as puppy farms and in turn save a pets live.

To any one reading this Please tell Ashford Council your problems any info wil help.


Dont reply to this message either Dominic & family as i dont care to speak to you just read and hope that justice will prevail for once

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by Ken Parr on 29 August 2009 - 08:06
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I have a question regarding the above company and the breeding lines they use.
Please do not reply unless you have a positive feed re the kennels used as we all have experience re the pedigree supplied. I have searched the databases of all Lab breeders who care to put details forward, I cannot trace Toonray, Moorhouse, Highclare, Gamefield or Ravenspur kennels on any site. 
My question is this, why have none of these kennels got web sites or details published. If they are such good breeders of Gundogs, why are the kennels not registered with the Kennel Club, why when having seen many chocolate lab pedigrees published do I not find any of the above breeders or kennels on any of the pedigrees. 
I appreciate that many quieries have been posted re the above company, yes I appreciate that many have good reports, but a lot more have bad.
One question is all that I want answered, WHY NOT PUT YOUR DETAILS ON LINE OR REGISTER WITH KENNEL CLUB WHERE DETAILS CAN BE VERIFIED.  
Please don't respond with names off your pedigrees unless you have positive feedback re the above kennels and the registered breed.  I also have not been able to trace the registrar that the kennels use either, Kennel and Canine pedigree registration co.
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by Ken Parr on 10 October 2009 - 07:26
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It's all gone quiet.
I have sent a message to Stickey toffee, Lorna Hawkes re the KC papers you are supposed to have . I am having no joy with Kennel club re any of the names in my pedigree.

Ken Parr.
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by jedward on 29 December 2009 - 15:20
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by bunnyrabbit on 01 March 2010 - 17:30
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Hi all if you have any information or are willing to help me put a stop to all the wrong this man is doing then please message me as I am on a mission to expose him. Cheers.
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by David Smith on 26 March 2010 - 18:14
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Ref John Vant - Wealden etc

I have this guy's new address in France for you. He apparently skipped the country in November 2009.

It's not the South of France as previously reported on this forum but it is 100% true that he went to France.

The address is Le Haut Legislais, Couesmes Vauce, Gorron 53300, Mayenne, Normandy.

Good luck
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by jedward on 17 April 2010 - 14:08
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by melly on 04 June 2010 - 13:55
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hi there,

ive brought 2 pups from this man what ever his name is 1 of them was just 8 months old 2 weeks ago when i sadly had to have her put to sleep as her hips were so bad it was unbeliveable.....


my other which is  only 10 months old i had xrays on his hips today just out of piece of mind and yes they the same not as bad as the other 1 but he dont think he will last that long.....



yes try talk to him he is very rude sent him a letter dont get a answer...  his company address in london is a call centre...

YES I HAVE REPORTED HIM TO EVERYONE WHO I CAN THIS MAN SHOULD NOT BE SELLING DOGS....

HIS NEW COMPANY NAME IS LABRADOR GUN AND SEARCH DOG TRAINING CO.LTD..

GET RID OF THIS MAN I SAY

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by jedward on 05 June 2010 - 12:01
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I wonder who Sticky Toffee, Charlie Brown,G .Stuart and Steven Blundell are?
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by mike stand on 28 June 2010 - 16:22
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Hi
We bought a Labrador from the people mentioned above in 2007, touch wood he's a lovely dog in good health. I was told at the time of purchase he would be K.C  registered and about 2 weeks later received a kennel and canine registration co. certificate.  Not the Kennel club registration I was expecting and had paid for.

It makes no difference to me now as i  don't intend to breed or show him, just made me very angry at the time to have been, what i feel was conned.
Just done a search of the postcode from the k&c reg co cert, to find it comes up at the same address from where we bought the dog, I don't know how old the advert in the link below  is, but it seems empty and for sale here  

 http://www.calcuttmaclean.co.uk/residential/properties-for-sale-in-charing-heath/WYE100052-TN27-0BG/





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by Joyous on 03 July 2010 - 13:59
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David Smith?!!!
 
thats the name of their vet,where i believe they have now set up kennels, in Deal or dover,  so im thinking that was a posting by John Vant ( or Toby De Vere as we were lead to believe)giving another false lead.They certainly do have a property in france, they touted the pics around the local pub, but fear that is not the real address. Mrs Vant was also known to be quite a show off, but very rude.

They had a girl working there last year called Shelley, i have no contact details for her, but she did have horses which she said she kept locally to charing. i will see if i can find the the number we wrote down for her.
The kennels were spotless when we visited, but very quiet- we have since found out they may have had the adults vocal cords cut, as they gave a dog to a friend of a friend, when upon investigation this was discovered to be the case. 
Puppies were being brought in regularly (once a week) in a burgundy coloured car- which was purchased in a garage in wales!!!-coincidence i think not!

Please  if you have any genuine details,regarding this chap, messgage me, as i have been compiling quite an interesting case against them, and i can guarantee anonimity.
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by CHILSTON SMOKER on 24 July 2010 - 18:21
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In reply to comments reguarding JV or TOBY !!!!

i have known this man for many years . always thought he was very honest . now i know this not to be the case. i can assure everyone that i personally am looking into him and his dealings with great interest............
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by doogle on 26 July 2010 - 12:29
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in seeing all these posts with regards jv etc, i just felt i had to respond. in december last year i got my little fella on collecting him i was told jv was in france and a lady called sally handled my collection. he  seemed fine but before the new year we had to take him to the vets as he was passing blood in his faeces. we was told he had a stomach infection and to ask the breeder if any others had problem. this cleared after having antibiotics. but he had problem with eating his faeces and to date we have not been able to stop him we have to watch him all the time as we have two children which he is very good with but we cannot allow him to lick. he is a very bouncy lab and out of all 4 i have had i never known this as he springs like a rabbit. he is now 9 mths old and to date has never barked we have till now laughed it off and felt he would eventually find his voice. we are now going to have him checked as the posts on here are very disturbing.
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by remick on 01 August 2010 - 23:19
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Hi, After reading your messages, just thought i would drop u a line to say i purchased a yellow lab from these people, from charin in ashford, Sally being the lady who sold the pup to me, Toby was in the South of France at the time.

At 4 months old, my lab stopped walking, was in a lot of pain, so we went to our vets in Deal, Mr David Smith, they confirmed our pup had severe HD in both hips, we saw the x-rays and was devasted. Spoke to the breeder, who hung up on me and was very rude. The vet operated on our pup, which meant he had to take out the muscles in the inner thighs to relieve the pressure and pain. This operation was done at the beginning of the year, but unfortunatley it looks as though we have problems again. We have pet insurance but it will not cover the costs of further hip replacements and hydro-therapy on both sides. Plus the pain and suffering that the puppy has to go through.

We have also been advised that the signature of our paperwork confirming Mr D Smiths confirmation of 100% of the puppies were signed by the breeder. All of our paperwork is fake, including registration, parents etc.

We feel very angry and upset for our puppy that he has pain and now we have changed vets, we have to go through the x-
rays again to see how bad the problem is now.

Why are people making a business out of this, they have no shame at all.

Remick
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by Puppy Alert on 23 August 2010 - 21:06
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Have read with interest the posts on the above breeder who has operated his business under various names.  Maybe anyone who has purchased a puppy from the above and is not satisfied due to the puppies condition or false information given should consider making a claim against the seller.  More details in the following post.

  
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by Puppy Alert on 24 August 2010 - 08:31
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Noticed that some of you on this thread have purchased sick puppies.  For those of you that are based in the UK are you aware that if you have purchased a puppy that subsequently suffers a hereditary defect, falls seriously ill, even dies soon after purchase do you realise lthat you are covered by the Sale of Goods Act?  Providing the seller is selling puppies as a business but not necessary to be an owner of a pet shop, dealer or licenced breeder but frequent ads offering puppies for sale will suffice, then you as the purchaser are covered by the Sale of Goods Act and can have if you wish redress through the local County Court under the Small Claims proceedure?  Do not be put off by Court it is not expensive and you do not need a solicitor to act for you in court.

This does not just cover health problems of your puppy but incorrect or false paperwork too including misleading advertising.  Puppies are classified as a commodity under consumer law and you as the consumer would be covered just the same as if you have purchased any other faulty goods.  

Some maybe put off thinking they may have to return their puppy to the seller (that would be your choice) it is not generally considered that is advisable due to the fact the puppy is a sentient being but  a claim can still be made with you the purchaser retaining the puppy.  After all you may already have bonded well with your puppy and paid an exceedingly high vets bill which you wish to claim for. 

More info can be found by contacting either your local Trading Standards Office, Consumer Direct or me by email (details on my web site). Incidently I would like to hear from purchasers that have bought sick puppies from licenced breeders, dealers or pets shops as all information is collated. 
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by inca on 26 August 2010 - 09:18
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Hi I to have recently purchased a puppy from this man. The puppy has had no end of problems,
I am desperately seeking information on this mans whereabouts. if anyone can help please pm me in total confidence
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by jedward on 27 August 2010 - 08:59
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